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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum FLINT Corp T.FLNT

Alternate Symbol(s):  NWPIF

FLINT Corp. is an integrated provider of upstream, midstream, and downstream production services. The Company’s segment includes Maintenance and Construction Services and Wear Technology Overlay Services. The Maintenance and Construction Services segment is a fully integrated provider of maintenance and construction services to the energy and industrial markets. It provides maintenance services... see more

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FLINT Corp > CSM_Q4 Key Takeaways
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Post by AmanadaCFA on Mar 05, 2021 5:44am

CSM_Q4 Key Takeaways

- Very surprised to see the company is falling to 393M annual revenue, despite the two acquisitions in 2019, which supposed to add 150M+ in revenue. They are down by 72M from 2019?

- In 2019 they stated "2019 was a defining year for ClearStream with a significant step change in our overall size and growth trajectory" So why we did not see that in 2020? Again I wouldn't blame Covide-19 as this company is a tier 3 or 4 so there should be very small impact up to 25% impact due to covide-19 or Oil prices, etc........ also some of their rivals such as Bird Construction just announced CAD500M new backlog, many others are doing very well!

- Backlog: same topic every year, there is something does not add up with the amount of backlog, as example "In the fourth quarter of 2019, ClearStream announced contract renewals and project awards representing over $250 million of new backlog." then the announced last week "..........Then in Q1'2021 they announced "New project awards and contract renewals were $46 million for the three months ended December 31, 2020. So far so good, we support such great achievements!

But if you do quick calculation: 

  1. 2019 Acquisitions supposed to add 150M+/Annual revenue
  2. 2019 Annual revenue before acquisition is 380M
  3. Declared new backlog of 250M in Q4-2019
  4. Declared burned new backlog of 46M in Q4-2020

 
Honestly I am so confused!, based on the above, this company should be in 600M+ mark in terms of revenue, that means we are missing 200M+ in revenue in 2020. They must provide more transparency to the readers of the financial statements, split between new actual backlog vs. renewals? In fact this will improve their creditability in the market as MGM team.


- Wear Technology, very disappointed / surprised to see such down-turn of their largest free cash flow & EBITDA division in less than one year, EBITDA is down by 70% comparing to 2019?? I am not sure what happened here, but this shows this company is not on the right direction, this division was the backbone for this company over the last 5-10 years in terms of FCF and EBITDA. Again don't blame Covide-19 and Oil prices, they might have impact up to 25% but not 70%!!!, MGM needs to fix this one. FIX it! 

- Cash Position, overall there is good improvement, this is due to collections of AR (CWC), not due to positive FCF from operation. But don't understand why 19M in interest, why the still carry 40M as liability in credit facility? Need a plan here? 

- SG&A of 24M+ - with falling to 300M mark in terms of annual revenue, there is a need for a complete and significant restructure at all levels, if they want to continue being competitive in the market, spending 24M in SG&A too much for such size of company. Having a full C-suite, VPs, directors,........ Similar companies with same size being managed by 2 at the top, rest are General managers, Managers, CSM needs to come-up with a plan to show very lean structure at the top and next 2-3 layers, if they want to survive in the next 2-5 years. 

- External Auditors – the detailed audit opinion is good and shows EY started to act as real auditors and be more responsible, they need to lean more to shareholder’s side and less to BODs and MGM to gain more creditability. Only finance people will understand between the lines of EY audit opinion, so good job EY!, this is good news to shareholders! 

- The 2 fatalities, very sad that CSM had two fatalities in 2020, we pray to their families, it is good to see that MGM addressed / mentioned on first page of MD&A to support their families. But MGM missed to discuss what is the plan to avoid something like that in the future, saying “ClearStream’s strong HSE Management System and leadership’s commitment to the safety of our people is more than ever our most important core value” is NOT a plan, this statement shows someone doesn’t want to take responsibilities and be accountable.If you think you have “strong HSE Management System” then we shouldn’t talk about two fatalities today!!!!, sorry to say that but this is NOT a leadership behavior! there must be shortfall ‘s’ in the system which resulted in 2 fatalities, these 2 fatalities did not happen in Mexico!

It was better to address new HSE measures in the highlight section and not mentioning “Establishment of new team for digitalization” or simplify corporate legal structure, both should be part of your day-to-day job not extraordinary highlights, also “Establishment” is not achievement or final results to highlight, it like someone says that he established a team to get to Mars, when you get to Mars then this is the “Achievement” or Highlight.
 
My overall takeaway, this company might have potential to be sold @ good market value, only if they get lean at the top MGM layers, decrease SG&A by 10M or more, sustain 450-500M revenue with 25M adjusted EBITDA, flip this NOT smart credit facility with FCF leakage asap, then I would say traders with long-term position will see share value appreciation, also I am not worried too much about CANSO outstanding debt, as Canso got used to lose money or they don’t care too much, MGM is smarter here!
 

The above analysis reflects my opinion, they meant more for long-term position traders!     

Comment by Assucker on Mar 05, 2021 8:03am
Shouldn't have mentioned the fatalities in a financial statement. It takes time to investigate these things, you can't put a plan in place till you figure out the root cause. Also another thing that doesn't belong in a financial report. 
Comment by falcon51 on Mar 05, 2021 8:25am
WOW! What a breakdown, So let me get this straight, after one of the worst possible years imaginable for any company to have survived in this sector you come out with this kick while their down report. I for one, and I am pretty sure I speak for a lot of investors here, commend this Company on a job well done considering what 2020 hit them with. The 4rth quarter and 2020 is now behind us ...more  
Comment by RFinley on Mar 08, 2021 5:36pm
The S&D equation for global oil markets is in the middle of a major supply-side reset that should provide support for oil prices going forward. Oil prices at $60 per barrel are better than $50, and $70 is life changing.   CSM has a lot of growth potential here, seems to be discounted at 90% according to my 2-stage Free Cash Flow to Equity calculations.  Anyone else calculated ...more  
Comment by jchung on Mar 08, 2021 5:56pm
Interesting topic, here are the numbers from my quants for varying discount rates: @ 10% FMV = $38.30 @ 12% FMV = $30.97 @ 15% FMV = $24.82 No matter which way you look at it, definitely undervalued at the prices in the market.
Comment by AmanadaCFA on Mar 09, 2021 12:17pm
I normally don't like to comment on someone input, but I found you raised good point.... CSM has a potential on long-run not 5 or 20 cent but more, the key issue here is whether they have qualified top finance people in place to drive such potential or not........ With all due respect to everyone but I have looked at annual report - last page which lists 3 key finance people, CFO and 2 VPs ...more  
Comment by falcon51 on Mar 10, 2021 10:17am
That was a lot better outlook Amanada , A lot of people here follow these boards and make decisions based on posts they read, So many have bought in high on this one and need reassurance that they might indeed get their money out or make good on their investement. Thanks for the post.
Comment by jlevangie on Mar 10, 2021 11:02am
I agree its nice seeing others DD. I have done a tonne on this stock. I see the upside for this company. It is very undervalued.  I know a lot of people in this industry so I have made a lot of calls and the big upside I see is in its environmental division. Canadian governments 1.7B investment in reclamation. They are in a very good position to land these contracts due to there equiment and ...more  
Comment by RFinley on Mar 11, 2021 4:27pm
Numbers don't lie.  Which valuation method did you use and what was your derived FMV? The qualification of upper management bears very little effect on a company's valuation when performed on fundamentals.  
Comment by SteveW29 on Mar 11, 2021 6:17pm
What numbers you are referring to? We need to clean this company from the current FAILED management team who failed the shareholders for the last 4 years with bad decisions, wasted significant amount of money on failed acquisitions, shareholders deserve a stock price of at least 50 cent, we will mount the presurre on this management team until they deliver this number and if they don't work ...more  
Comment by DonTMX on Mar 11, 2021 7:01pm
50 cents! hard target by end of April21...but agree this MGM needs to deliver after four years cashing out 2M/year in bonus.... but they started to tight their hands on other SG&A like consulting and external auditors as per AIF.... CSM MGM...Always remember.... We elected the board who hired them, so directly or indirectly you work for us! CSM MGM....TIME TO DELIVER! AND FOCUS, I really don ...more  
Comment by DonTMX on Mar 11, 2021 7:12pm
@RFinley......Deliver 50 cents by end of April21...period!
Comment by RFinley on Mar 12, 2021 10:40am
50c is being too kind to the leadership. With a rationale market, this becomes 80c with a correction based on EPS and P/E ratio. If we consider PEG ratios or give them the benefit of being an ESG play, we can see much higher mulitples.
Comment by leteroll on Mar 12, 2021 11:18am
i agree, i wouldnt sell at $0.50. This company is undervalued and has potential. If oil prices can push through the spring and summer this companys profitablility will go hand in hand. i am definately holding this one!
Comment by SteveW29 on Mar 05, 2021 10:37am
@Amanda....thank you for your analysis, agree with the last point with regards CANSO, overall they have a long run potential.
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