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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Financial 15 Split Corp T.FTN

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.FTN.PR.A | FNNCF

Financial 15 Split Corp. is a mutual fund, which invests in a portfolio consisting of over 15 financial services companies. The Company offers two types of shares, such as Preferred Shares and Class A Shares. Its investment objectives with respect to Preferred Shares are to provide holders of Preferred Shares with cumulative preferential monthly cash dividends in an amount of over 6.75... see more

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Financial 15 Split Corp > Holy premium
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Post by EdPaquette on Dec 09, 2020 2:16pm

Holy premium

This has gone wacky, I wonder if many of these buyers are unaware of the upcoming consolidation.
Comment by navgod on Dec 09, 2020 2:55pm
Oh they are aware of the consolidation - "visions of divies dancing in their heads"- I just not sure they understand all the math.
Comment by Larry50 on Dec 09, 2020 4:16pm
Perhaps someone could explain the math in a way those of us who don't understand all the implications can understand.
Comment by alexallwin on Dec 09, 2020 5:30pm
Hi, thanks very much for you guys comments. I also feel confused and if anyone can help me to understand better, it would be great. My understanding about the consilidation is: after the consilidation, the total money amount of my holding does not change, however, even if the total share amount get less, the divident distribution starts. So, this consilidation is a good news for us. Is it right ...more  
Comment by EdPaquette on Dec 09, 2020 5:48pm
If you have 1000 shares today, it will become 400 shares in 8 days.  Each will then pay 12.57 cents per month. 
Comment by alexallwin on Dec 09, 2020 5:53pm
Thanks Ed for your reply. However, still not very clear. So, today, I have 1000 shares at the price $4.27. Then, after 8 days, my 1000 shares become 400 shares, this part is clear. However, what the share price would be after 8 days? If the total money value keeps same, then the share price would be (1000 x 4.27)/400 = 10.675. Is it right? If this part is correct, and I start to receive divident ...more  
Comment by EdPaquette on Dec 09, 2020 6:21pm
Yup, that's right.
Comment by navgod on Dec 09, 2020 6:51pm
The real guestion is whether the premium over nav is too large even wiyh a dividend being paid. For example if the current nav is 13.50(a guesstimate on my part.then the premium would be (10.675-(3.50x2.5))/(3.5x2.5)= 22% or 28% based on FTN's high trade of the day. Personally this how i will decide whether I want to be long or short or on the sideline where I currently am.
Comment by pjn0987654321 on Dec 09, 2020 7:22pm
The share price is scaled up.  They do not walk away with 60% of your money.     The dividend payment is calculated on the number of shares you hold after consolidation.   It's good news to be getting paid, but you should read the rules at Quadravest's website.  
Comment by Larry50 on Dec 09, 2020 8:33pm
Yes, I think it's pretty well understood the share price is scaled up and yes, it's nice to receive any dividend rather than no dividend.  When is the price conversion calculated?  Lets say the shares convert and the rate at day of conversion is $10.  While there is never any guarantee in price direction I think there is a greater risk our new $10 shares will drop back to $8 ...more  
Comment by pjn0987654321 on Dec 10, 2020 8:42am
I believe I read Dec 17 is consolidation day.  I don't know if it happens before open or after close.  My guess would be after close.  Then upon open on Dec 18, trading starts at the scaled up price of the 17th closing price.  
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