Post by
mouserman on Oct 28, 2021 5:57pm
FTN unit nav to OCt. 28 =$22.24 after distributions
So after the 12.5 cent distribution to commons and and 5.6 cent to preferreds, the UNIT NAV now stands at $22.24.
FTN last trade at $11.64 leaves the commons trading at a 60 cent discount to NAV even after the distributions are taken for the month. Discount is almost exactly 5%...
Comment by
navgod on Oct 28, 2021 6:54pm
Given the last trade for the pref was 10.74 the combined unit market price is 22.38 so trading at a small premium of 2/3 of a percent on a unit basis.
Comment by
mouserman on Oct 28, 2021 9:01pm
Next week quadravest will report the UNIT nav and the NAV for commons in the monthend update. AND 10$ will be attributed to preferred shares and the Stated NAV for commons will be the UNIT NAV - the 10$..... That is what i base discount or premium on.
Comment by
pjn0987654321 on Oct 29, 2021 9:13am
I didn't see why the $10.74 is significant for the preferreds when the redemption value is $10. I think you are right to use $10 in the calculation of discount or premium, not $10.74.
Comment by
EdPaquette on Oct 29, 2021 12:20pm
I'm surprised the preferreds are at 10.74. FFN preferreds pay a higher yeild than FTN preferreds.
Comment by
navgod on Oct 29, 2021 1:22pm
They both pay 6.75% -- FTN is the safer pref with its higher unit NAV. That said I own FFN.pr.a as it is better value at current prices. My surprise is not FTN pref at 10.70 but FFN pref at 10.10. GLTA
Comment by
slst on Oct 29, 2021 1:44pm
FTN Pref shares have $12 + of safety coverage (NAV of A shares.) 120% While FFN Pref shares have $7+ of safety coverage (NAV of A Shares) 70% Both were stuck offering overly generous rate of 6.75% for at least 5 years as part of a reorganization when trouble hit.
Comment by
navgod on Oct 29, 2021 2:02pm
Small correction: Pref rate on both issues can be adjusted annually. I was surprised that FTN.pr.a coupon was not reduced this fall to 5.5%.