RE:RE:Financing I think the capex change is going to be non trivial as they said. The environment isn'T as good as a year ago but much better than a month or 2 ago, so that is positive, China is going to help copper and PD is dragging a bit, but presumably as car production increases and that will change assuming they slow down car prod if recessionary pressures. if the rate picture slows down or reverses, that's another boost, as is associated fall in usd. all else being equal, the real wild card is what the financing looks like for the capital structure, i dont see much downside to the commodities, and copper is great long term, but building a big mine is an expensive proposition, shares are cheaper than they should be i guess,