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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Gamehost Inc T.GH

Alternate Symbol(s):  GHIFF

Gamehost Inc. operates hospitality and gaming properties in Alberta, Canada. The Company's segments include gaming, hotel, and food and beverage. The Gaming segment includes three casinos offering slot machines, electronic gaming tables, video lottery terminals, lottery ticket kiosks and table games. The Hotel segment provides full and limited-service hotels, banquet and convention services... see more

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Gamehost Inc > NCIB vs Dividends
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Post by BarstoolSage on Oct 17, 2022 11:56am

NCIB vs Dividends

Ran some numbers based on plans to buy back about 1mm shares to see the effects on key shareholders, being me, insitutions and the Wills. 

                  dollars return
me 10000 0.000444444  $              79,500.00   10000 0.00046512  $              83,197.67 0.00002067  $                3,697.67  $                     0.05
                     
institutions 2904750 0.1291  $      23,092,762.50   2904750 0.13510465  $     24,166,844.48 0.00600465  $       1,074,081.98  $                     0.05
                     
wills 7537500 0.335  $      59,923,125.00   7537500 0.3505814  $     62,710,247.09 0.01558140  $       2,787,122.09  $                     0.05
                     
float 12047750 0.535455556  $      95,779,612.50   11047750 0.51384884  $     91,914,710.76 -0.02160672 -$       3,864,901.74  
                     
                     
  22500000   178875000   21500000   178875000    $                             -    
  Osshares   MarketCap   Osshares   MarketCap      
                     


If the plan to redeem 1mm in shares is successful, that is a 5% return to all shareholders, so just about the current dividend yield, and can be seen as the other half of our desired dividend.

Would rather have cash but ...that is another posting :)

The other interesting result is a magnified result in percentage of the company held by Wills and the institutions because they start wih significant postions....

The Wills earn 1.55% more of the company, institutions about .6%, while I barely register. Totally the result result of the numbers and amounts invested and not unfair by any measure, but it is a significantly RELATIVELY more favourable outcome for insiders and it is something that can creep forward and should be considered. Combined, it earns the insiders 2.15% more of the company when the float is reduced by 1mm shares
Comment by BarstoolSage on Oct 17, 2022 11:58am
Retrying resized table                   dollars return me 10000 0.000444444  $            79,500.00   ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Oct 17, 2022 12:07pm
Great work, they are doing both so you get best of both worlds. There is often days where do few shares are traded that they can't make near their daily target. But they are getting rid of 20-40k shares per month. If they average 30k, it will probably be around 360k shares per year barring any large shareholder exits like we saw twice last year.
Comment by BarstoolSage on Oct 17, 2022 12:33pm
Sedi shows about 80k cancelled in last 4 months so your estimate works for me.   Don't mean to quibble but it could be on the high side as July saw 13.4k cancelled, Aug 14.5k, Sept 33K  and October so far 20K shares have been cancelled.
Comment by BarstoolSage on Oct 18, 2022 12:21pm
Current float is 22,500,000 Point where the Wills ands the institutional investors begin to own more than 50% of the company...20,884,500 that is achieved after 1615500 shares are cancelled Just wondering what shareholders feel about that I see that "strong inside position" is desirable to some, but inside control is another matter. Note I am not saying "the sky is falling" ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Oct 18, 2022 2:39pm
I already see this company as running effectively as a private company. They are not trying to court new investment, they don't need to sell new shares so its in a unique position.  I see one of three things happening: 1. Management buyout/privatization  2. Sell out to a bigger casino company 3. Sell out to a private equity firm.  The first assumes that the Wills want to keep ...more  
Comment by malx1 on Oct 18, 2022 5:10pm
Sage. Trying to get a handle on your concern or possible multiple concerns. They are all valid but maybe not as pressing if we can talk them over with fellow shareholders. Is it the allocation of cash flow used to buy back shares or is it the number of shares held by insiders?  Or both? If we can agree what all shareholders benefit equally from NCIB share cancellations, then it sounds ...more  
Comment by BarstoolSage on Oct 19, 2022 2:27pm
Wow thanks for such an indepth response Malx. Last first, slots are simply not negotiable. Preying black boxes with moving parts just making noise to me. Walking by them on my way to the relatively quiet table games area is among my favourite activities there. To the creeping control  it was not so much an issue as an observation of the results, and the multiple percentage increase in ...more  
Comment by malx1 on Oct 19, 2022 3:36pm
Glad to share.  Good discussion. Certainly see your perspective and it's great you brought forward possible hazards. Let's chat tomorrow about a comfortable payout ratio and sustainable dividend rate. I'll say right now the way to not disappoint shareholders is to ensure that the annual dividend level is sustainable through economic downturns.  Downturns are inevitable so ...more  
Comment by malx1 on Oct 20, 2022 3:03pm
There was a time when I felt similarly about slots but that changed as I came to appreciate the evolution of the old "one-armed bandits" to what we see today.  Modern slot machines are sophisticated, private lottery terminals, with all the graphics, music, sounds and even tactile interaction during game play that captivates players, making their experience enjoyable win or lose ...more  
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