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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum H&R Real Estate Investment Trust T.HR.UN

Alternate Symbol(s):  HRUFF

H&R Real Estate Investment Trust is a Canada-based real estate investment trust. The Company owns, operates and develops residential and commercial properties across Canada and in the United States. The Company operates through the four segments: Residential, Industrial, Office and Retail. The Residential segment consists of approximately 24 residential properties in select markets in the... see more

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H&R Real Estate Investment Trust > Last hike to first Fed funds cut
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Post by Torontojay on Mar 06, 2024 8:31pm

Last hike to first Fed funds cut

This post is dedicated to Frankie. I know you've had a bad year but hopefully you will redeem yourself one day. 

A historical account of the past Fed hiking cycles.  This includes the date of the last hike and the date of the first cut, followed by the date a recession occurs.  I have produced a chart which dates back to 1957 and includes the 3 soft landings that occurred in 1966, 1984 and 1995. When a recession does occur, 5 out of 9 times it begins after the first Fed cut. It occurs only twice twice before the last rate hike. 

 

I will emphasize the length of time that was required to bring the economy to a halt for the last 3 recessions prior to covid.

Gfc -  the last hike occurred on July 2006 and the first cut was on Sept 2007, or over a year later. The economy went into a recession on Dec 2007 or 17 months after the last Fed hike. 

Dotcom bubble - the last hike was on May 2000 and the first Fed cut on January 2001. The recession  happened almost 1 year later on March 2001. (10 months from the last hike) 


Gulf war recession - Inflation was very stubborn and remained around 5% for at least 2 years in 1989 and 1990. The last hike was on Feb 1989. The first cut was June of that year but it wasn't until about 1 year later that the economy tilted to a recession (17 months from the last hike)

 Although the sample size is very small, it is reasonable to assume a recession may start at the end of 2024 or early 2025. 

Last hike           1st cut         Recession 

Aug 1957          Nov 1957     Aug 1957

Oct 1959          June 1960     April 1960

Aug 1966          Sept 1966       -----------

Sept 1969          Oct 1969     Dec 1969

July 1974          July 1974      Nov 1973

Mar 1980           April 1980     Jan 1980

May1981           June 1981     July 1981

Aug 1984           Sept 1984      ------------

Feb 1989           June 1989     July 1990

Feb 1995           July 1995       -------------  

May  2000          Jan 2001       Mar 2001

june  2006          Sept 2007      Dec 2007 

July  2023               ?                     ?

Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 07, 2024 12:40am
I'm 25% bitcoin so I've had an okay year. I don't think this relates to H&R so I apologize for not reading this post dedicated to me. Night.
Comment by Torontojay on Mar 07, 2024 4:16am
Next time Frankie don't hide behind another alias because you're too afraid to come clean.  You lost a lot of money and now you're trying to take jabs at me because my short term cash trades have fared much better than your garbage reit portfolio.   
Comment by Frankie10 on Mar 07, 2024 8:05am
Ah now I see. That was not me. I have been nothing but honest with you - both postive and negative - using my own name. I don't understand why you think I would waste my time to make a new account to say something I've already said and am comfortably saying using my name. None the less I wish you well and do not mind the misunderstood "return" jabs. No need to bash REITs on here  ...more  
Comment by Torontojay on Jun 08, 2024 9:48am
The amateurs on this board will have you believe that interest rate cuts is bullish for the economy or the stocks they own. This statement couldn't be further from the truth.  Recessions follow very closely to around the timing of the first rate cut. The average drawdown of a recession is about 35% peak to trough. This suggests to me that the stock market may be due for a serious ...more  
Comment by Panic54321 on Jun 09, 2024 2:27pm
It's a good thing that many Canadian Reits are already at 5 year lows.  ( unlike the general US markets / TSX. )    Interest sensitive sector reits / Utilities telecom.   ( many around 5 year lows )  interst rates moving down in a recession will definitely help the sector over time.  I buying now. Followed the sector for along time.   Many Reits ...more  
Comment by Northforce13 on Jun 09, 2024 9:15pm
/agree 
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