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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum I-80 Gold Corp T.IAU

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.IAU.WT | IAUX

i-80 Gold Corp. is a mining company. The Company is a gold and silver producer engaged in the exploration, development and production of gold, silver mineral and poly-metallic deposits. Its operations include Lone Tree, Ruby Hill, Granite Creek and McCoy-Cove. The Company owns a 100% interest in the Lone Tree and Buffalo Mountain gold deposits and Lone Tree processing complex (collectively, the... see more

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I-80 Gold Corp > Buy ARTEMIS instead of I80.....
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Post by metalhead666 on Apr 07, 2023 6:36pm

Buy ARTEMIS instead of I80.....

When you read Taylor Darts analysis you'll see dates 10 years into the future when I80 could be a 500k ounce producer.  A lot will happen between now and then and if you know the gold space...particularly the junior miners....you should know they are boom/bust stocks.  They can triple in a year and give it all back and then some a year later. ALL gold miners are rentals. They are not investments. They are to be bought cheap and sold dear without ever getting married to them.

I80 is a unique story. They have the goods in the right place at seemingly the right time...but...it's very disturbing to have the millions of share overhang by EQX and to see relentless shorting of the stock in a gold bull market.  I don't know what's going on and neither do you and no one is offering any explanation....this is a RED FLAG.  I don't care what has transpired, what the future may hold on the drilling front but I do know that RED FLAGS should NEVER be ignored.

I80 with 8 drill rigs turning...many drilling deep holes....will burn through their cash very quickly. The modest sales help but they are a long way away from being cash flow positive and will require a significant amount of money to get there. It won't be this year either as they are intent on pouring resources into multiple projects with the drill bit.  All well and good when building a large company but it doesn't do much for me in the short run. 

It's concerning too that no drill results have been released even as they posted pics of the cores and have been drilling since Jan. I find it difficult to believe that assay labs are that backed up in Northern Nevada. If they hit a bunch of sub par or dusters and are willfully holding back those results.....hoping to hide them with some better holes....well you can imagine what will happen to the stock price

I trust NO ONE and trust gold miners least of all. Just saying what you should be thinking.  I could be all wrong but I never doubt my intuition and if I miss a big move so what?  I'd gladly miss a move than take a dive so when my spider sense starts tingling I get out...I'm out of I80  If I'm proven wrong I'll re-evaluate but things aren't to my liking now..too many unknowns and unresolved questions.

ARTEMIS on the other hand will be pouring gold at a 300k plus rate in less than 18 months. Fully financed, fully permitted, constuction underway, mine plan optimized so that the payback period at $2000 gold is under 2 years. Free cash flow will be in excess of $350 million per year. IRR is over 40% after tax now. Mine life is over 20 years. At $2000 gold the mine pit shell can be profitably expanded...no drilling required to add ounces and years of production. Every $ higher in gold is now gravy on top of gravy. It's a straight forward open pit high tonage, high grade simple project without any of the risks associated with underground.  Blow it up, truck it, mill it, sell it. No money going back into the ground looking for more...a prime takeover target. The NPV is now $3.5 billion with a market cap of 900 million CAD. 25% of NPV and on the verge of commercial production...it should be drawn like a moth to a flame to 1x NPV making for a triple or better in less than 2 years...the sweet spot of the Lasonde Curve. Prime location, scale, grade, financing, permits, under construction now not in 5 years.

I like Skeena for all the same reasons but they are a year or two behind even as their financials are even better than Artemis

I prefer to have only a few eggs in my basket and watch the basket closely. Artemis presents the least risk with the most upside in the shortest period of time of any project I know. It doesn't rely on the next set of drill results to make or break it. It doesn't need to discover or define any resource...all done. If I can get a triple with little to no uncertainty I'll take it every time. I80 has some quirks now that don't add up...everything at Artemis adds up including 40% insider ownership. I doubt they are going to act in any way that doesn't serve their best interests. They plowed 200 million large of their own money into Blackwater ...highly unlikely they aren't going to get a multi bagger return on that.

I own a modest position in Artemis...a small one in Skeena. I intend to build a large stake this year. Can't own em all and don't want to. I want the biggest return for the lowest risk. No grandslams but no wiffs either. Artemis and Skeena offer it...I80 I'm too unsure of.
Comment by TomWicken on Apr 09, 2023 9:16am
you mention overhang but fail to mention 32 million warrants at C$1.00 expiring next year for artemis? that is real overhang when ppl can sell for a 300% gain on any given day to lock in gains and expiry much closer npv is also not 3.5 billion that uses 2021 prices for mining, processing, labor and capex (good luck with that) and using 2,000 / oz gold and 5% discount rate is preposterous. either ...more  
Comment by metalhead666 on Apr 09, 2023 11:47am
I just threw out 10 years...wasn't trying to be precise just making a point that it's a long time until this potential is reached. In contrast to Artemis producing in under 18 months I'm aware of the warrants and yes that could well be an overhang much like I80 has but most are held by the same management that owns 40% of the stock so I consider that in strong hands I used fully ...more  
Comment by AlwaysLong683 on Apr 09, 2023 12:01pm
"I'm aware of the warrants and yes that could well be an overhang much like I80 has but most are held by the same management that owns 40% of the stock so I consider that in strong hands." In my view, it's not in whose hands the warrants are held. It's the excessive dilution to existing shareholders that's the problem. Currently only 193M total shares outstanding, yet ...more  
Comment by TomWicken on Apr 09, 2023 2:52pm
from the site "*Excludes impact of Silver Stream, completed after the feasibility study Notes: 2021 Feasibility Study technical report entitled “Blackwater Gold Project NI 43-101 Technical Report on Updated Feasibility Study” dated September 10, 2021 filed on SEDAR" the silver stream done after FS. how could 2021 FS include silver stream? did they have a psychic on their board? ...more  
Comment by metalhead666 on Apr 09, 2023 4:17pm
They have 30 million coming from warrants and 40 million in "contingency"....that's a lot of cost overrun isn't it?  You don't have to buy the stock. I'm pointing out why it's a better bet all things considered. If you think I80 is going to rehab the autoclave in a few years for the price just quoted or the CIL plant a couple years away for todays price....try ...more  
Comment by TomWicken on Apr 10, 2023 3:07am
the autoclave figure was out last week.. it was below consensus...max its 300 million 30 million dollars is a lot of contingency? you realize the warrants are the exercise price not the current price right? no 40 million is not a lot of contingency.. assume that all contingency will be used.. it is at all other projects. cote went $1 billion over and that include using up 120 million contingency ...more  
Comment by metalhead666 on Apr 10, 2023 7:50am
I'm not saying that things can't end up costing more...that's true for greenfield and brownfield alike.  What I care about more is AISC and margins. Show me a mine with better margins than Artemis that isn't in W Africa.  At the end of the day Blackwater will be built just as will the projects you mention...all that expense whether over under or on budget will become ...more  
Comment by AlwaysLong683 on Apr 10, 2023 11:33am
I like Greenfield Projects. Though all new site infrastructure is needed, you are mining virgin land. If the Feasibility Study for the first project is impressive and future ounces may be added upon further exploration / gold and silver prices given the land has never been mined before, that's what I like to see in a gold mining company.      Fair points about ARTG's ...more  
Comment by metalhead666 on Apr 10, 2023 12:44pm
Very well put! 
Comment by TomWicken on Apr 11, 2023 11:12am
ruby hill is greenfields.. you have 0 understanding of the story twice as much drilling has been done by richfield and new gold and artemis on blackwater than has been done at ruby hill when excluding drilling at the main open pit which is not what i80 is developing.. no CRD focus in 60 years.. old timers didnt touch anything under alluvial cover and only took easy stuff  no underground ...more  
Comment by AlwaysLong683 on Apr 11, 2023 12:46pm
1) So, are you saying no more equity raises or alternative financing needed to get to first pour on any of the projects that are actually mined up to first pur plus any drilling or assaying on Paycore claims that may take place during the process...? How do you know this for sure as IAU is still in the exploration stage at these sites and haven't even produced a preliminary economic assessment ...more  
Comment by TomWicken on Apr 11, 2023 1:10pm
my reference was to "virgin land". skarn, crd, underground is virgin land at ruby hill, it has barely been touched hence the reference to meters drilled and your virgin land comment... they are not after the low grade carlin mineralisation 270 million liquidity cash flow from mining granite creek means they can fund float plant and then use hilltop cash flow to fund autoclave they ...more  
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