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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum LIQUOR STORES NA LTD 4.70 PCT DEBS T.LIQ.DB.B

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LIQUOR STORES NA LTD 4.70 PCT DEBS > Level 2 RT/ Dilution
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Post by buyvalue1 on Jan 12, 2016 11:09am

Level 2 RT/ Dilution

dyod

Do you think they will do a share offering at these prices?? (speculation)

imho, I can't see how they can be both a high yeild Co and Growth Co with the US and CDN economic headwind's.

A share offering is going to dilutue you. Do the math over Q!/2016.

calculate the dividend on shares outstanding
(approx. 27 mil shares outstanding and divy is $0.09/month)

Divide that number by say $7 (current mkt price). That how much of the pie you have to give up.

To grow, do you want to give up pie or retain cash and a health balance sheet.

IF. MGMT is in lockdown, some sort of finacing/ re-org is in play ( funds could be use for operations or pay down debt and maybe/or a buy out of a peer) 

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Comment by mercatos on Jan 12, 2016 11:42am
Its possible they could do a share offering.   I would do a 2:1 stock split, reduce the dividend 50%.  This protects current share holders. Then go to market with a share offering but now you only need to pay a lower dividend on new shares issued I believe this is what they needed to do before.
Comment by buyvalue1 on Jan 12, 2016 12:52pm
Hi mercatos dyod Assume: Current shares out standing approx 27 million ( on 2 for one spli, multiply by 2) Current annual div at 14% ( one a 2 for 1 split, dividee by 2) Current market price is $7 (one a 2 for 1 split , divde by 2) ............................... a 2 for 1 split is going to give you 54 million shares you have to pay 7% on with shares trading at $3.50 so  nothing ...more  
Comment by mercatos on Jan 12, 2016 3:23pm
They should do a share buy back.  Better returns than opening new stores. Just saying in frustration. They need to communicate something or this market will treat them like any other oil company. Old quote 'Greatest cause of failiure is the failure to communicate' Mercatos 
Comment by constructionsite on Jan 12, 2016 2:16pm
The sp reflects fundamental fear, rather than fundamentals of the business.  It's really all about the dividend imo.  The current payout is unsustainable, and with the stated aim of being a growth co, there is mounting pressure to free up this massive monthly cash outlay. Imo, the market might be anticipating a cut to one third the current payout (3Cents per share), which seems ...more  
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