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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Novo Resources Corp T.NVO

Alternate Symbol(s):  NSRPF

Novo Resources Corp. is engaged in evaluating, acquiring, exploring, and developing natural resource properties with a focus on gold. The Company explores and develops its prospective land package covering approximately 7,500 square kilometers in the Pilbara region of Western Australia, along with the 22 square kilometer Belltopper project in the Bendigo Tectonic Zone of Victoria, Australia... see more

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Novo Resources Corp > Time and Patience ... and also Endurance and Resilience
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Post by TXRogers on Sep 01, 2020 10:01pm

Time and Patience ... and also Endurance and Resilience

WG wrote:


"How "time and patience" has paid off for NVO. 47:16 to 49:40"


These days, investors are bombarded with different styles, motives, and techniques applied towards making money in the equity markets.  Many people must be confused on how to engage in market investing.  So, I figured I would share my view on the matter.  Especially with how one chooses to view Novo in the grand scheme of things.
 
I would like to highlight the 5 main types of investing. 
 
The first 4 types of investing are focused on trying to make money and “grow your wealth” within a rigged and corrupted system, where everything is a basically a lie or premeditated fraud.  Most of us dwell in this world of the 4 types.  Investors have little choice because this is the System in which our equity markets exist.  It may be a hopelessly lawless casino, but investors try their best to come out with something positive in the end.
 
The 5th type of investing (Business Participation) is uniquely different.  It goes well beyond “value investing” and into the realm of endurance and wealth preservation.  It is much more that simply “value investing”.
 
Here is a brief Summary of the first 4 investment types, of which most are familiar:
 
 
  1. Medium to Long Term Investing:
 
Investors intend to be medium to long-term owners of the companies in which they purchase shares. Having selected a company with desirable products or services, efficient production and delivery systems, and an astute management team, they expect to profit as the company grows revenues and profits in the future. In other words, their goal is to buy the greatest future earnings stream for the lowest possible price.
 
  1. Short Term Speculation:
 
According to Philip Carret, author of “The Art of Speculation” in 1930 and founder of one of the first mutual funds in the United States, speculation is the “purchase or sale of securities or commodities in expectation of profiting by fluctuation in their prices.” Carret combined the fundamental analysis popularized by Benjamin Graham with the concepts used by early tape readers such as Jesse Livermore to identify general market price trends.
 
  1. Trading:
 
A trader is someone who buys and sells securities within a short time period, often holding a position less than a single trading day. Effectively, he or she is a speculator on steroids, constantly looking for price volatility that will enable a quick profit and the ability to move on to the next opportunity. Unlike a speculator who attempts to forecast future prices, traders focus on existing trends – with the aim of making a small profit before the trend ends. Speculators go to the train depot and board trains before they embark; traders rush down the concourse looking for a train that is moving – the faster, the better – and hop on, hoping for a good ride.
 
  1. Index or Mutual Fund Investing
 
Frustrated by inconsistent returns and the time requirements to effectively implement either a fundamentalist or speculator strategy, many securities buyers turned to professional portfolio management through mutual funds. According to the Investment Company Institute’s Profile of Mutual Fund Shareholders, 2015, almost 91 million individuals owned one or more mutual funds by mid-2015, representing one-fifth of households’ financial assets. Unfortunately, very few fund managers can consistently beat the Market Indices over extended periods of time.
 
Therefore, it is not surprising that exchange traded funds (ETFs) emerged with the issue of the S&P 500 Depository Receipt (called the “SPIDER” for short).  Similar to the passive index funds, ETFs track various security and commodity indexes, but trade on an exchange like a common stock.  At the end of 2014, the ICI reported that there were 382 index funds with total assets of $2.1 trillion.
 
 
The 5th and final Investment type is unique in its focus because it targets the endurance of a business that is external (not exposed) to the antics of our financialized world.  This investment philosophy IS NOT for investors that are trying to get rich.  This IS for investors that are already rich, and want to preserve and pass on their wealth to their future generations.
 
 
  1. Business Participation
 
The focus is on scarcity and endurance within the investment portfolio, and the stewardship of what is irreplaceable capital.  This type of investing is OUTSIDE the system and its longevity and resilience is not dependent of the fraudulent activities of the current financial system.  The main idea is to participate in a business endeavor that grows an investor’s savings.  This is extremely unique (and rare).
 
If you have 2.5 hours to spare, I strongly urge you to listen to Grant Williams interviewing Tony Deden.  Deden exemplifies this investment style.   The perspective is absolutely fascinating, and in many ways highlights how business investment should be conducted.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4_U6bS-cU4
 
 

The reason why I bring these investment styles up as a topic of conversation is because they all apply to this specific investment in Novo Resources.  Personally, I lean more towards the styles of 1. and 5., which is represents my perspective on this investment:
 
1. Long Term Investor 
5. Business Participation.  
 
That is why I show much less interest towards investor opinions that focus on trading or short-term speculation.
 
Tx


 


 
Comment by Harmonika on Sep 01, 2020 10:11pm
I think I will be livering more also now that Im on the wagon Tx.  H zzz
Comment by TXRogers on Sep 01, 2020 10:59pm
What happened , H?   Did TA read the riot act? That's usually a initial warning sign.  I can just see you suffering now... Tx  
Comment by Harmonika on Sep 02, 2020 8:15am
For sure. She says Im a danger to the public when Im in the sauce. Mule mighta mowed over a few armadillos last time:)  H
Comment by goldencraton on Sep 02, 2020 10:10am
Annual event  for H… End of Summer wagon ride… Many guitarists go through it… Also signals start of the Moose rut in that area… Bottle on the bottom of the pool right H?… All good folks… He’s one of the Boy’s … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfp1CAJWtZs Cheers H Burp gC
Comment by Harmonika on Sep 02, 2020 10:19am
You know me too well:) H
Comment by oldfx1 on Sep 01, 2020 10:17pm
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Comment by stocksluice on Sep 02, 2020 4:40pm
Nice post, Tx. I watched that Deden interview a few weeks ago. You're right, well worth watching. Takes me back to the days when men were men. He's definitely not the Robinhood soyboy type. I tried to locate myself in the categorization you put together, and found myself initially investing in NVO under your first category (medium to long term investing), back in 2017, until in 1H2018 I ...more  
Comment by TXRogers on Sep 02, 2020 6:15pm
I understand SS.  It all can be subjective. The one thing that must be stated is that an investment style may initially be closer to an intention in the early days, than the confirmed path.  A business that thrives for multiple decades cannot be confirmed as such in its early years.  It only claims successful longevity in hindsight. So, I can only speak to my intended goal in this ...more  
Comment by oldfx1 on Sep 02, 2020 7:34pm
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Comment by stocksluice on Sep 02, 2020 8:45pm
How well I recall the second coming of Steve Jobs. That NeXT step for Apple was truly a big deal, but what was even bigger was when the iPhone was announced. That was the real game changer. When/if NVO has it's iPhone moment, I'll be there. You're right, that would have been a great question to ask Deden. Perhaps he did and it ended up on the cutting room floor, so to speak ...more  
Comment by TXRogers on Sep 02, 2020 9:13pm
Personally, I do not expect an "iphone moment" in the Novo business.   What I expect are incrementally progressive stages that eventually lead to a wide spread recognition that a significant business has been built.  And that it has much further to go.  This point of recognition will not be same for all of us, and it may come further out in the future for many (which ...more  
Comment by stocksluice on Sep 02, 2020 9:21pm
Yes, the iPhone moment was rather a vague metaphor... For me, what that means is free cash flow that clearly demonstrates the economics of the venture... More specifically, at least $10MM in 1Q2021 would do it for me.
Comment by TXRogers on Sep 02, 2020 9:51pm
Fair enough.  You've set yourself a personal investment criteria. No one can argue against it.  It's as valid as anything else. Tx
Comment by stocksluice on Sep 02, 2020 10:32pm
Yes, to each his own, as they say, that's what makes a market. A bit of history in alluding to Apple, when we were all under the impression that the conglomerate zone was high grade (~68g/t) extending througout the craton, I once mused that NVO might become a $1T company as well someday... looking back, had those assumptions held true (not to discount the possibility that to a lesser extent ...more  
Comment by TXRogers on Sep 02, 2020 10:54pm
OK guys. Enough of this serious banter.  Life is too short and this ain't CEO. As for you H, it's time for your therapy sing-a-long.  We know how sleep does not come easy. All together now... Tx    
Comment by Harmoniica on Sep 03, 2020 1:41am
I want a hat like that. Why I didnt get a hat like that.  H  
Comment by Harmoniica on Sep 02, 2020 10:30pm
Now you sound like a ceo..er? SS. If they are producing in Q1 I will send you a box of Pooh's epithermally cooked hotdogs.  H  
Comment by stocksluice on Sep 02, 2020 11:25pm
lol, I'll believe that when I see it!
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