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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Oncolytics Biotech Inc T.ONC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ONCY

Oncolytics Biotech Inc. is a biotechnology company. The Company is focused on developing pelareorep, an intravenously delivered immunotherapeutic agent that activates the innate and adaptive immune systems and weakens tumor defense mechanisms. This compound induces anti-cancer immune responses and promotes an inflamed tumor phenotype turning cold tumors hot through innate and adaptive immune... see more

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Oncolytics Biotech Inc > Clinical Trial Size in Orphan and Rare Diseases
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Post by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 11:39am

Clinical Trial Size in Orphan and Rare Diseases

Some orphan drugs were approved by the European Medicines Agency based on studies with as few as 12 patients.

Studies supporting (post) marketing authorisation (post accelerated approval / Phase 3 confirmatory studies) included several hundred patients.


As stated in the “Guideline on clinical trials in small populations” by the European Medicines Agency/Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use (EMA/CHMP), most orphan indications submitted for regulatory approval are based on randomised controlled trials (RCT).

ONCY pelareorep is being trialed in Orphan and Rare Diseases/Cancers, such as pancreatic, CRC MSI high, and SCCA, for example, using randomised controlled trials (RCTs).


https://ojrd.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13023-017-0597-1

https://www.irdirc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/SPCT_Report.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK56176/

https://listenandlearn.alexion.com/Regulatory_policy_Reform
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 11:45am
Accelerated Approval Pathway For rare disease patients, time is always of the essence. Many rare diseases progress quickly and, moreover, delayed treatment only increases the economic burden on families. However, many patients with rare conditions have obtained faster access to treatments that provide meaningful advantages through FDA’s Accelerated Approval pathway. Congress established the ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 11:55am
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Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 11:59am
https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/new-fda-designations-accelerate-progress-in-pancreatic-cancer-treatments-a-year-in-review/
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 12:28pm
ONCYs pelareorep received Orphan status in pancreatic cancer from the EMA in 2015 Some orphan drugs were approved by the European Medicines Agency based on studies with as few as 12 patients. Studies supporting (post) marketing authorisation (post accelerated approval / Phase 3 confirmatory studies) included several hundred patients. As stated in the “Guideline on clinical trials in small ...more  
Comment by Quentin30 on Dec 01, 2023 1:34pm
Orphan Drug status means nothing without an approval to make use of it... well, reduced scientific advice perhaps... but ONCY has never done any science to understand how Pela works inhouse... they rely for everything on external researchers... which is why they have never been in control of their own destiny... Matt should just throw in the towel already, and go back to Thailand... and bum ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 1:51pm
You wrote : Orphan Drug status means nothing without an approval to make use of it .... Nonsense.
Comment by inthno on Dec 01, 2023 2:08pm
Hello Noteable and curious as to your thoughts as to why onc has not taken advantage of the orphan drug status since the company received it back in 2015 as you stated.
Comment by Quentin30 on Dec 01, 2023 2:42pm
Because Ithno, there is nothing to take advantage of..!! It is merely to assigned to assist companies with reduced or waived costs of scientific advice. In the US, you get reduced fees for a licence with an OD status, please additional market exclusivity after recieving approval.. ONCY has NO approval... ODD only shows that there might be potential in Pela. Otherwise it is meaningless ...more  
Comment by inthno on Dec 01, 2023 2:47pm
In  2015 ONC came out with 8 news releases announcing orphan drug status approvals for 6 different indications and fda and EMA jurisdictions. The only one they have followed up on is the panc cancer at this time from what I can tell so the ODS has not made or had a lot of impact on the company to date so far. One would think that with so many ods approvals that someone would step up and take ...more  
Comment by 13X2413 on Dec 01, 2023 2:56pm
$4.31 on July 11 and $1.90 on Dec 1 speaks volumes. It's clear what the market thinks about what they have. Unfortunately I got sucked in, like many others. 
Comment by Azzak34 on Dec 01, 2023 3:06pm
Look at all of our shareholders goin hard at it today. Guess you guys will be selling up and moving on? 
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 3:07pm
The acquisition of Orphan Drug status in pancreatic cancer led to ONCY acquiring Fast Track designation in pancreatic cancer and FDA feedback and support. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/oncolytics-biotech-receives-fda-fast-track-designation-for-the-treatment-of-advancedmetastatic-pancreatic-cancer-301691597.html
Comment by Quentin30 on Dec 01, 2023 6:41pm
yes marvellous.. Fast Track designation, which means shortened lead time for assessment of a BLA... they need a successful Phase III, before they even write said dossier... so having ODD without an approval is meaningless. Like I said, Not nonsense, FACT
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 7:41pm
An Accelerated Approval  will do !! 
Comment by Quentin30 on Dec 01, 2023 2:37pm
Besides getting reduced costs for regulatory advice... please share what benefits there are..?? besides, oh... nonsense, because you don't know of any... OD status can be granted and you do not have to show clinical benefit, only the possibility of clinical benefit.. Noteable.. when are you going to understand that Matt and Co are going nowhere.. without massive dilution... The even said on ...more  
Comment by Quentin30 on Dec 01, 2023 2:45pm
so, ONCY has had 8 years to work with EMA to understand what reduced trial they can run... it hasn't happened, because ONCY have yet to prove statsically that increased T-Cell clonality translates to clinical benefit, which would support its use as a biomarker, for a potential accelerated approval NOTE how Matt even stated this year that the mBC trial will be traditional 2 arm study... i.e ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 02, 2023 6:21pm
Phase II/III trials that are adaptive in design,  randomized controlled, and using surrogate clinical endpoints to predicitively determine treatment outcome were considered valuable alternatives to a relatively small sample size and overall survival in orphan diseases and rare cancers by 80% of oncologists.  ‘FDA guidance states that where a potential surrogate ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 03, 2023 11:55am
Orphan  drugs can be divided into 4 mutually exclusive categories: (1) approved for a single rare disease (sole orphan), (2) approved for multiple rare diseases (multiorphan), (3) initially approved for a rare disease and subsequently approved for a nonrare disease (orphan first), and (4) initially approved for a nonrare disease and subsequently approved for a rare disease (non–orphan ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 03, 2023 12:03pm
I wrote: .....  In the process of achieving an Accelerated Approval a company would first seek FDA Breakthrough Therapy status ....... I now find that this is not necessarily always the case with a a company first having gained Fast Track status, but is preferable.
Comment by Quentin30 on Dec 03, 2023 7:03pm
Wow so muchg copying and pasting... Have you actually been in an FDA meeting Noteable..? Fast Track designation is NOT same as Breakthorugh Designation... and without a confirmed biomarker that shows statisically that presence of the biomarker translates to efficacy, then accelerated approval is just an aspiration. ONCY has never spoken about soliciting the FDA for AA... it's just you and ...more  
Comment by 13X2413 on Dec 03, 2023 7:13pm
As much as I hate to say it because I own some of this, you are right on the mark.  Be prepared for some name calling from the Pelazakable team. 
Comment by Noteable on Dec 03, 2023 8:01pm
No one said or implied that Breakthrough status is the same as Fastrack status. In spite of this Fastrack offers the same benefit of FDA access as Breakthrough particularly since ONCY has been reporting on surrogate endpoints, which like Breakthrough, opens the pathway to Accelerated Approval, which is recommended given ONCY's positive Phase 1/2 data in their GOBLET-1 adaptive clinical study ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 03, 2023 8:06pm
Should read .... "And ... Accelerated Approval in the context of an adaptive clinical trial involves a seamless transition from a Phase 2 trial to a Phase 3 confirmatory trial ( traditionally known as a Phase 4 post-marketing study). "
Comment by inthno on Dec 03, 2023 9:49pm
As much as we all want AA , does anyone know of any incidence in the history of AA that there has been a trial approved for AA on the basis of only 13 patients.  If we want to be realistic imo only, there will either a continuation of the panc phase 2, or a panc phase 3, or a big push for the Anal trial. Let's just hope that the company is actually bargaining in good faith at this time ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 03, 2023 9:59pm
Yes .. as Norman posted on small population (10-40 patient) studies on drugs that went on to be granted  Accelerated Approval ... Phase II :   These studies last from some months to 2 years and are performed on a small homogeneous group of patients (10 to 40 patients).
Comment by inthno on Dec 03, 2023 10:05pm
OK so that gives us hope. Can u or Norman provide a link to the trials with less than 20 patients that were granted AA. I would like to add that to my files. Also one would think that onc could apply for AA with the mbc as one would think that they would qualify given the results and unmet need.
Comment by inthno on Dec 03, 2023 10:14pm
The reason I ask is that I cannot find in the article where it states that those trials went.on to be granted AA but rather a posology to move to a phase 3 trial.
Comment by CaseyL on Dec 04, 2023 8:16am
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/oncolytics-oncy-up-on-lead-drug-securing-2nd-fda-fast-track-tag Don't be such a Putz and do the research
Comment by 13X2413 on Dec 04, 2023 8:35am
Not sure what the significance of this year old article is??? The two other stocks in that article didn't exactly pan out either. Both way down from their highs too.  It was a good glimpse of the past though. 
Comment by fox7mf on Dec 04, 2023 8:45am
Cmon De_man, if Oncy is content on becoming a career ph2 biotech, and if they push yet another indication aside (mBC now PDAC), to pursue yet another indication (anal) then they deserve what they get...which will be dilution followed by insolvency after the mass investor exodus. 
Comment by Azzak34 on Dec 04, 2023 8:51am
Any way you and the care bears could do that now.... just go away I mean? 
Comment by Noteable on Dec 04, 2023 9:16am
For further distinction between Breakthrough Therapy and FastTrack designation, Breakthrough Therapy designation is requested by the drug company. Breakthrough Therapy designation is to develop evidence needed to support approval as efficiently as possible, and the FDA will respond to Breakthrough Therapy designation requests within sixty days of receipt of the request. ONCY has already ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 04, 2023 10:24am
J&J BTK inibitor Jaypirca® (pirtobrutinib) granted accelerated approval in a form of slow-growing non-Hodgkin lymphoma on overall response rate (ORR)  (achieving an overall response rate of 72%) and duration of response from the open-label, single-arm, multicohort, international, Phase 1/2 BRUIN trial. ONCYs Goblet-1 study is a& ...more  
Comment by inthno on Dec 04, 2023 11:18am
it's nice to see companies taking advantage of the AA pathway.... From the article that Note posted. "The FDA approval is based on data from a subset of patients in the BRUIN Phase 1/2 trial. The assessment of efficacy was based on 108 patients with CLL/SLL treated with Jaypirca who were previously treated with at least two prior lines of therapy, including a BTK inhibitor and a BCL-2 ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 04, 2023 11:34am
As you will note ... the study was based on a single arm, unrandomized study .. so the need for more patients. And as I stated about Quentin30, and now inthno aka De_man, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. And in the cases of Quentin30 and inthno , 2 wrongs dont make a right.
Comment by Azzak34 on Dec 04, 2023 11:38am
Nor do 2 dopes make a smart person.  Hey, we're getting multilingual bashing over on Stocktwits. El Fudo must mean we're getting there. 
Comment by inthno on Dec 04, 2023 11:53am
Hello Note and I have not attacked you in any way so not sure why this is happening. I was only quoting from the article you posted and if I made a mistake on my post then I will publically apologize. So tell me if I was wrong in stating that the approval was based on 108 patients and I do believe from what I read that this may have been a subset within the trial but I might be wrong , I do not ...more  
Comment by inthno on Dec 04, 2023 11:53am
Hello Note and I have not attacked you in any way so not sure why this is happening. I was only quoting from the article you posted and if I made a mistake on my post then I will publically apologize. So tell me if I was wrong in stating that the approval was based on 108 patients and I do believe from what I read that this may have been a subset within the trial but I might be wrong , I do not ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 04, 2023 12:03pm
Yes inthno, you are wrong in the ways mentioned including trying to obscure your intent ... and your many wrongs dont make a right.
Comment by inthno on Dec 04, 2023 12:08pm
Note----so how many patients was the trial approved on. I would like to know the number as I thought it was mentioned in the article but you did not say the number of patients. So exactly what was I wrong about and then I will once again look at the article you posted and then apologize and if you cannot do son then what about an apology from you for saying I was wrong. We can go back and forth ...more  
Comment by Buckhenry on Dec 04, 2023 1:07pm
All the regurgitated rethoric by the forever misguided pumpers has only decreased the stock price. Please tell us more stories about all the companies that have been bought out for jillions and we are next !!!
Comment by Noteable on Dec 15, 2023 12:15pm
https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard?symbol=t.onc&postid=35767212
Comment by Noteable on Dec 15, 2023 12:25pm
From Orphanet  : It has been shown that orphan/ rare disease trials have smaller sample sizes than non-rare disease trials. Indeed some orphan drugs were approved by the European Medicines Agency based on studies with as few as 12 patients.  About 75% of the rarer diseases (trials had size less than 50; actual median size, 15 (interquartile range, IQR, 8–55 ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 15, 2023 12:55pm
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), in collaboration with Duke University’s Duke-Margolis Center for Health Policy, held a virtual public meeting on Thursday, Dec. 14 aimed towards ultimately improving patient community engagement in the development of rare disease treatments.   Traditional clinical trials are challenging to conduct for therapies targeting these small ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 16, 2023 2:23pm
ONCY's Matt Coffey stated that over 120 mPDAC patients have been treated with pelareorep + CPIs in multiple Phase1/2 adaptive clinical studies whose data can be seamlessly rolled into a Phase 3 clinical trial and by inference into an Accelerated Approval request.
Comment by Noteable on Jan 01, 2024 11:45am
Orphanet has already answered the question of clinical trial size and posted in Mid-December for you to read: From Orphanet  : It has been shown that orphan/ rare disease trials have smaller sample sizes than non-rare disease trials. Indeed some orphan drugs were approved by the European Medicines Agency based on studies with as few as 12 patients.  About 75 ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jan 26, 2024 1:27pm
It has been shown that orphan/ rare disease trials have smaller sample sizes than non-rare disease trials. Indeed some orphan drugs were approved by the European Medicines Agency based on studies with as few as 12 patients.  https://ojrd.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13023-017-0597-1 Drugs for common orphan indications were more often biomarker directed. The rare ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Mar 14, 2024 8:34pm
Innovative strategies for accelerating orphan drug development and FDA approval are crucial to bringing life-changing therapies to patients with orphan/rare diseases. FDA guidance states that where a potential surrogate endpoint exists that is correlated with the primary endpoint, and the primary endpoint itself is difficult or slow to ascertain, an adaptive design can be based on the potential ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 05, 2023 10:33am
Accelerated Approval Pathway For rare disease patients, time is always of the essence. Many rare diseases progress quickly and, moreover, delayed treatment only increases the economic burden on families. However, many patients with rare conditions have obtained faster access to treatments that provide meaningful advantages through FDA’s Accelerated Approval pathway. Congress established the ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 05, 2023 10:06pm
https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.onc/oncolytics-biotech-ord-shs?postid=35765770
Comment by Noteable on May 15, 2024 11:48am
Accelerated Approval Pathway For rare disease patients, time is always of the essence. Many rare diseases progress quickly and, moreover, delayed treatment only increases the economic burden on families. However, many patients with rare conditions have obtained faster access to treatments that provide meaningful advantages through FDA’s Accelerated Approval pathway. Congress established the ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Dec 01, 2023 12:04pm
 Squamous cell carcinoma of the anus (SCCA) is a rare tumor. https://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/EDBK_237433#:~:text=Anal%20squamous%20cell%20carcinoma%20(SCCA)%20has%20historically%20been%20considered%20a,world%20by%202.2%25%20per%20year.
Comment by Noteable on Jan 27, 2024 3:13pm
The National Cancer Institute defines “rare cancers” as those occurring in fewer than 15 out of 100,000 people. So, affecting 13 out of 100,000 people, pancreatic cancer is considered rare. https://pancan.org/news/how-common-is-pancreatic-cancer/
Comment by Noteable on Jan 27, 2024 3:16pm
The incidence of pancreatic cancer is on the rise. "A new analysis of data from the National Program of Cancer Registries database, covering around 65% of the US population, suggests that the incidence of pancreatic cancer among individuals younger than 55 years is increasing more rapidly than in those 55 years or older, and also more quickly in women than in men". - The ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Jan 27, 2024 3:33pm
Pancreatic cancer has the highest mortality rate of all the cancer types—accounting for 3% of all cancer deaths in the United States—and is more common among male patients than female patients. - rates of pancreatic head adenocarcinoma—an especially aggressive and fatal tumor situated at the head of the pancreas—appeared to be increasing. https://ascopost.com/news/february-2023/pancreatic ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Mar 29, 2024 1:37pm
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