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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Pine Cliff Energy Ltd T.PNE

Alternate Symbol(s):  PIFYF

Pine Cliff Energy Ltd. is a Canada-based company that is engaged in the acquisition, exploration, development and production of natural gas and oil in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and also conducts various activities jointly with others. The Company's operating areas include Central Assets, Edson Assets and Southern Assets. Its Central Assets include Ghost Pine and Viking Kinsella... see more

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Pine Cliff Energy Ltd > Nat gas vs Coal !!!
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Post by red2000 on Jan 02, 2022 2:49pm

Nat gas vs Coal !!!

We have to remember that !!!

Natural gas burns cleaner than oil and 
coal , and it emits less carbon dioxide for the amount of energy it produces. ... It could thus give a boost in short-term reductions in greenhouse gas emissions responsible for climate change.
Comment by mjh9413 on Jan 02, 2022 4:31pm
Mustn't forget though the methane clouds and ongoing methane leaks to atmosphere (being equivalent to I believe 25x worse impact than CO2), and the slow, slow move to reduce flaring. These make natgas environmentally unfriendly. Former are pretty well unregulated and possibly would not know of their occurrence or volumes if not for satellite analysis. Poor planet, and I don't see how my ...more  
Comment by snowshoedb on Jan 03, 2022 8:22am
Agree with some of what you said. So given your complaints. Could you suggest better sources of energy whose full cycle carbon footprint is smaller than Nat Gas. I tell my staff that when they come to me with a problem I expect them to also provide some alternative solutions. What solutions do you propose that will provide dispatchable power and won't only run 35% of the time?
Comment by mjh9413 on Jan 03, 2022 8:48am
Being employed and having a problem to take to the boss is simply not the same as looking at energy alternatives. One is defined, local and hopefully manageable internally...by you and your cohorts. The other is global, involving everyone, not managed centrally. I was saying that natgas is not at all perfect, in fact currently very imperfect (and producers and pipeline companies have lot to do ...more  
Comment by FreeCashFlow on Jan 03, 2022 7:56pm
There is no Alternative :))  
Comment by snowshoedb on Jan 04, 2022 12:20pm
And that is my basic point... Realistically until: 1) battery storage for 35%-65% of demand is in place 2) Renewable installtion needs to be at least 35%-50% larger than current nameplate capacity of the generation you wish to decommision (to allow for when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine). 3) Put enough wire to the infrastructure between Generation, Storage, Delivery Then ...more  
Comment by gossamer4 on Jan 03, 2022 12:59am
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