Pyrogenesis Canada Inc T.PYR

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[thenewguy11]

Fdfd with all your trading knowledge you believe this stock currently above 5 dollars will be at 10, when a contract for over 500000000 is signed.

[fdfd12]

We will see about that. If  a $500M  contract is about to be signed, why isn't the stock at a very high level? When a $10 company gets bought out at $20, then the stock right away goes to $20. It doesn't wait for the buyout date in 6 months for it to go to $20. If this contract is a sure thing, then the stock should be at a high level like $20 or $30 now. It is NOT. This is

[kingscorpion]

Fd the less you talk the better it is for the stock and for the shares you supposedly hold.

[fdfd12]

KING I have been talking all day and the stock if flying all day. SHUT UP

[kingscorpion]

If you didn't yap the stock would be higher infact. Go shoot yourself in the foot at some other bull board I am already tired of you popping in and out like a ginnie Ohh all those contracts are lined up and fd thinks EPS at .40c What planet are you from From day one you showed up here you ve done nothing but talk negative to semi negative about the company and for your information when one of

[fdfd12]

KING you are so WRONG. My EPS of .40 is a good estimate. Remember, your hero Peter said .11 for the entire 2020 year. I am saying .10 for each Q next year. I am more optimistic than Peter. TELL ME, how can the stock get to $20 this year if Peter (your hero) says the EPS for the year will be .11 TOTAL.. ARE YOU NUTS!! Stop scamming this board. Enough is Enough

[macallan25]

Man u r ignorant. Peter only talks EPS based on what's guaranteed. 0.11 is guaranteed on less than $40M. He is about to close $5B by end of September, earnings of $2B. To run thru the contracts let's say 18 months. 2B/6 for arguments sake. That is earnings of $300M per quarter or $2 EPS. NO multiple factored in. By the time the A B and C are executed, total EPS for the 18 months would be

[fdfd12]

Yes you are right. Those contracts will make the EPS from .10 to $5 for each Q. $20 for the yfear with a multiple of 30 we get a stock of $600. That is great. Thanks for informing me macallan

[macallan25]

You're welcome fdfd12. Glad to educate you on basic finance stuff. Makret will determine the multiple. That is the only unknown. Contracts get signed, earnings by the quarter, new D E F clients, 6 other business verticals, market will decide if they like it. Tesla trades at 800x earnings of 1.92. My projections have consistently built in a 10-15 multiple which is fair value. We will see who is

[amillionorbust]

$5B by end of sept?!! I hate to sound like a broken record but how many times do we need to cut and paste Peters comments regarding the elusive $$billions of dollars contracts? It's not happening that way folks. It just isn't. Stop saying stupid things that dumb down the billboard. Smart people don't bet their careers on a billion dollar contract that could potentially sewer their

[fdfd12]

One of the few intelligent investors out there. Amillion, my hat goes to you. You will now be called a BASHER like I was. I was called a BASHER for predicting a stock price of $10 in 4 months. That wasn't good enough for these people. They wanted $20 in 4 months.

[Easy22]

I can agree with that....what you don't seem to understand is it doesn't matter how big the order is....when it gets here there is going to be fomo in the market as it would indicate a turning point for iron ore clients and solidify their decision to go with PYR's torches over their conventional methods. Even if we only get an order for 50 torches I would still expect the sp to reach

[amillionorbust]

Easy22; "what I don't seem to understand?"  That's a bit of a leap don't you think? What don't I understand? I've never commented on how this would affect sp. I just have a problem when Mclellan (who has a handle on numbers usually) pie-in-the-sky's it stating "we'll have $5b in deals by end of sept". A casual observer of pyr could read that and

[Easy22]

Haha sorry amillionrobust I think you misunderstood....I agree with your comments. I was referring to fdfd12 who always seems to twist things in a negative way. All the best. Go PYR Go!!

[amillionorbust]

My bad Easy

[MakeItRain1]

Normally I'd agree with your logic but when the only person who actually knows what's on the go with the negotiations is willing to put his butt on the line making the comments he is making, I believe what he is saying. He keeps saying it with great confidence too btw. No one has more to lose than him, his rep, company and his personal fortune is on the line. This is not new technology and

[amillionorbust]

I will concede this...The contract in its entirety could technically be in the billions. The first tranche will most definitely not be though. It could have benchmarks attached that combined could equal $1bill in the future should all benchmarks be reached and install proceeds as promised, no mechanical issues, etc. Not by end of Sept lol. Some lawyer speak so they can bail if relationship goes

[sandysouci]

amillionorbust -- I AGREE WITH YOU... as I've stated multiple times in the past, expectations need to be tempered a wee bit here, or some people will be disappointed... yes, we absolutely have MASSIVE potential, but in the real world, things usually take more time than expected, it might not happen all at once, and yes some of it might never pan out... and a billion dollars is a friggin'

[Pitpitcolisse]

That's funny because 150MUSD would give around 1USD of sales per share. Put your margins at a conservative 33%, you have 0,33USD EPS. It's simply mind blowing, EACH PLANT SOLD IS APPROX 1USD OF SALES PER SHARE and about at least a third in earnings. Now where do you put stock price after one plant, and after 3 plants?

[fdfd12]

Pitpit there is also Sales and general expenses. Last Q their sales were  2.1M Cost of goods                  .8M Sales and general exp   1.6M All this will increase once orders come in. How profitable they will be we will have to see.

[Welderkev1]

Isn't that the margin?

[Welderkev1]

Whenever anyone buys anything they get a better price buying in bulk. What would give you the idea this would be any different? To follow your example of buying more in 6 months why would Pyr give them more at the same price when chances are the cost of the parts they need to build the order will go up with demand. The tech they are buying has been proven already in Sweden so they already know

[amillionorbust]

Welder. As I mentioned in my post, the contract can be written up to ensure bulk pricing should they be happy with product. Clauses welder, clauses. Oh ya..AND PETER SAID SO. He literally said billion dollar contracts are not on the horizon. I think he may have referenced pipe smoking to those who don't seem able to grasp this. 

[Welderkev1]

I remember that as well but I also recall him saying somewhere that $1.5billion deals don't get done overnight. Why would Pyr allow them to do a contract like that when they've got other contracts being signed that are getting added to the backlog until they finish the first order. that would mean to do the contract that way the buyer would go to the end of the backlog who knows how big it

[Pitpitcolisse]

He said "but nobody is closing a $1.5 Billion dollar deal in a few weeks", he's not saying the 1,5B is wrong, he said nobody can close this kind of deal in few weeks, so have patience.

[macallan25]

That was my main point. I believe the deals will be for >$1B, but will take time. Peter won't do a $150M deal, then $300M deal...makes no sense to me. That's what clauses in contract come in to play to protect both sides. When I re-read July 2 NR and was reminded of end of August for Client A purchase discussion completion...honestly has me tingling. September will be wild I think.

[macallan25]

U and fdfd12 are living in some alternate reality or something. If u read Peter's comments and watched his videos you would understand that he is eluding to billion dollar deals not happening overnight. Maybe you misconstrue that to mean small orders to start. Actually, no. To the contrary, he is likely referring to the time it takes to close the contract. He is dealing with MAJOR players. Pen

[amillionorbust]

okay Macallan. Agree to disagree. Let's touch base in 35 days and see who was right.

[macallan25]

Sure. 35 days (or whenever A B C actually get done). Might be end of September, could be later. We will see. I am confident deal will be for 500 torches or more, various clauses in contract related to what you are referring too (warranty, maintenance, etc). If it is indeed Vale who did a $1.5B raise, I'm pretty confident they didn't raise that to spend in $150M tranches. But agreed, touch

[macallan25]

Hey buddy. Here, let me save u the trouble. I'm not hiding. A, B and C = $5B by end of September or later as my post said - October is later.

[amillionorbust]

umm. Nope, your original post said end of sept. That's it. Shall I highlight it? Just Concede. 

[canyousayiii]

This SH "quote" feature is great.

[amillionorbust]

A post I made from August I thought the impatient guys might need to review again. Still waiting for Macallan25 to concede that it was in fact he who was the 'ignorant' one. $5billion by end of September?! Wow bud how's that working out for you? It's playing out exactly as I called it.