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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Pyrogenesis Canada Inc T.PYR

Alternate Symbol(s):  PYRGF

PyroGenesis Canada Inc. is a Canada-based high-tech company. It is engaged in the design, development, manufacture and commercialization of advanced plasma processes and sustainable solutions which reduce greenhouse gases. It offers patented and advanced plasma technologies that are used in four markets: iron ore palletization, aluminum, waste management, and additive manufacturing. Its... see more

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Pyrogenesis Canada Inc > CEO previous comment regarding plasma torches RE:Electricity
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Post by developbc on Sep 19, 2021 8:56pm

CEO previous comment regarding plasma torches RE:Electricity

PYR CEO previous comment regarding plasma torches...specifically electricity requirements

Posting this up as lot of chatter regarding Client B electricity requirements. Remember folks Peter is privileged to much more facts/info than any of us behind the scenes - so note the extreme confidence.

The mere thought of backlog of those staggering numbers $$$$ and recurring revenues $$$$ is absolutely incredible.

Oh this is just one client of a huge roster of numerous industry giants in Iron ore producers.  Don't forget there is Client A, C, D, E, F etc that are in deep discussions.

Many other possible applications as Pete mentioned..cement, steel and other metallurgical producers.  

Let's not forget DROSITE, 3D POWDERS, PUREVAP, WASTE DESTRUCTION, TUNNELING ETC ETC 

LONG AND STRONG PYROGENESIS!!!

Q. Hello Peter,

Someone on Stockhouse is saying that even though the torches that will be used for iron ore pelletization are easy to install, they require a great deal of electricity.  He claims that that is what is holding back these large companies.  i.e., most of them don't have access to all that electricity.

Without revealing any secrets, can you say whether or not the torches do, in fact, require a major amount of electricity?

Thanks in advance for your answer.   Snowdrift (see below)

Here's the post in question:

 am a long who is working on adding to his position in the current situation.
I have some experience in the iron ore pelletizing business.
My  reading of the current situation of torches for pelletizing is this:
The first multiple torch order will be for client B, 4 torches and will happen in the current quarter.
Explain that:

  1. internal approvals require detailed estimates and that does take some time      

  2. these torches may be easy to install but they are hungry for juice, electrical juice, more than what most clients have available. Client B can feed 4 torches at this time. For more wait  +/- 2 years. The electrical infrastructure is not plug and play, just the torch. Once that is sorted out we will see an order for 16 torches so he can complete one line. When that line is operating and all the bugs are worked out the remaining 5 lines will be undertaken. 
    I expect that most pelletizers are in a similar situation. The electrical investment will dwarf the torches alone, by many multiples. 500 kms of transmission lines through the Labrador wilderness will not happen overnight even if the power is waiting at the other end. Client B is lucky in that respect. The power is there and politicians are lining up to thump their chests when the transmission line construction is announced, probably before year end..
    Most pelletizers probably do not have access to the quantities of "green" electricity required.
    My advice to evertone is to calm down and take advantage of those who lack the patience needed in the situation.

A. Dear Snowdrift,

Good to hear from you again....and again with a tough one.

I think I answered this before...here is a refresher...and maybe with a bit more colour added:

Regarding the electrical installation of our torches, it is true that end-users may in some situations have to incur some additional costs if they plan to install torches at large scale**... but* this is not a new development and was known by all parties from the outset*.  In cases of** large-scale implementation**, it is fully anticipated that there may be an investment required to progress to fossil free production of steel using plasma and we are moving forward.  I would suggest that the thinking may be...maybe !!....that along the way a* lot of torches can be sold before we get to that tipping point and by that time any electrical requirements can be put in place...*

I do not think people fully understand the sheer magnitude of the problem facing the industry and how sweet a plasma torch solution is.

There are huge benefits in changing out their current fuel system with electricity...huge benefits...and dare I suggest that the current environment might be ripe to finance such a green change out????  Get my drift...?  This also takes time to consider amongst all the moving pieces...

I believe that many clients are indeed lining up their financing sources to get the conversion process started, (like buying 1-4 torches as previously discussed).  I also believe that as we start building out the torches the electrical needs will be addressed (interesting way to stimulate the economy and go green as well, no?).

Although this has its unique time line, we very quickly see the impact it would have to Pyro’s top line.  Doesn’t take many torch sales to have that impact. Particularly when you consider that multiple plants seem to be lining up to do basically the same thing in unison.   I would suggest that even initial torch orders, when combined, could be staggering.

I could be entirely off base and something may come up that no one around the table anticipated, but right now everything is lining up as it should.  Personally, I do not see any real alternative option if one is going to change out diesel burners with a true, cradle-to-grave, green technology.

Hope that helps,

Peter

Q. Thanks so much, Peter, for this enlightening, straightforward and highly encouraging response.

Your feedback is important to us, as investors, because when a person posts something on the billboards, that casts doubt, it makes us wonder if maybe we're being too optimistic.  Watching the stock price drop can have us chewing our fingernails to the elbow.

So thanks again for the uplift.  Really looking forward to all of the various developments!

Snowdrift 

A. Dear Snowdrift,

Thank-you for the kind words and I am glad my responses help somewhat.

As the largest shareholder in the Company, and the one most affected by any decline in share price, I can assure you that I am not worried...not one tiny little bit. The future of the Company just seems to get better and better every day. From that aspect I am on top of the world. That is not to say we do not have our challenges...we do...like always...but they seem to be fewer and far between.

My sincere frustration is not being able to scream from the rooftops everything I see... as regulators prohibit it. In time all will be disclosed as it becomes material and disclosable.

Once again thanks for the kind words.

;-)

Hope that Helps,

Peter

Agoracom: Small Cap Investment - PyroGenesis Canada Inc - Re: Electricity requirements for torches

Comment by sbbb2x2 on Sep 20, 2021 6:50am
Many thanks Snowdrift for getting this. If this does not get everyone a little more excited I fear nothing will. GLTA Longs SBBB
Comment by canyousayiii on Sep 20, 2021 7:45am
This is the way I see this whole thing. A bunch of usual suspects are posting about hundreds or thousands of torches that will be sold over the next couple of years and some folk are saying won't happen because the infrastructure is not in place. Some of those are looking far into the future. I see 3P taking the middle of the road confirming that some energy infrastructure is indeed needed but ...more  
Comment by sbbb2x2 on Sep 20, 2021 8:02am
Keeping it real is a real change over never right Ulceron. All I anticipate in the next couple of months are: >the 36 torch order comes in  >one Dross order comes in. >financials show progress Those two contract announcements could move us to $20+. GLTA Longs SBBB
Comment by canyousayiii on Sep 20, 2021 8:25am
You are basically saying that you could see about $150 million in announced sales moving the market cap by $2.5 billion. I know that they would provide further validation of market demand, but too early IMO to have such a huge impact. I would be happy with a double from here.
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