Pyrogenesis Canada Inc T.PYR

5000 degrees capable vs 1200 unachieved

[StairwayTo]

Curious to find out why the 4 torches at RT did not meet the 1200 degrees necessary to bake the pellets, based on Proster649 statement, worker at RT
 
When it says here from PYR: Plasma is called "the fourth state of matter" after solid, liquid and gas. The gases become electrically conductive through the addition of energy, which makes it possible to achieve temperatures far higher than 5000°C.

[dalesio_98]

Perhaps 5000C in ideal conditions within a test setup.

[Winston123]

Perfectly normal during commissioning to run multiple tests. They probably took 5 heavy oil burners outta service, fired off the 4 plasma and found it a little shy on required heat. Add another plasma gun or fire up another dirty burner and your back in business. Easy peasy. Even better , throw in a 4mw plasma burner.  and yes , they are referred to as burners in industry.  gas

[dalesio_98]

Winston123, From your text to the ears of the Lord Almighty. Good luck to all!

[BCONTVentures]

Great post Winston123, thanks for this.  And great seeing you back on SH.

[BIGMOE]

Not sure why temperature of the Plasma Torch are an issues? They have done Fluid Dynamic Study for the burners before Rio Tino purchased the MW size of the Torchs,  That's how generally when you model in software and then use it in real life.  Temperature is non issue.  Plasma Torch is high powere devise and produce lots of heat at 5000 C.

[BCONTVentures]

Great points Winston123, and from PyroGenesis' November 16, 2023 Corporate Presentation, PYR is developing 3MW+ torches: Note the 3MW+ torches are currently in development (including a 4.5 MW torch from the August 1, 2023 NR). https://ir.pyrogenesis.com/static-files/0cf8e7e2-973f-497a-a373-df9f8309eb92 https://ir.pyrogenesis.com/news-releases/news-release-details/pyrogenesis-signs-41

[raphaelle2]

Hey Bcont I like yours and your team business savvy! After the failure to sell what they have ( mini plasmatorch) in spite of forecasting sale galore by the hundreds...( sorry the thousands lol) now this co is selling what they don't have ( 2-5 MW torch)  which by the way are available off the shelf in US and Europe. Only in Montreal can you find such great  enterprise! GLTA

[raphaelle2]

It seems that some here are confusing temperature and energy! For ex the max temperature of a tiny candle flame is around 1200C. Temperature of a non transfered plasma arc can go above 20000C, but on a very small spot. Which by itself is a problem ( because it burns the electrodes, and such a high temp is useless for most process applications. The trick is to dilute this temp in an uniform way

[filoux004]

Thanks Raphaelle, excellent technical post. Glta.  I can understand  fins but when it comes to technical aspects or should say challenges I am definitely not qualified to express an opinion on the merits of these so-called breakthrough techs. That's why we await validation from major players in the field. Glta 

[StairwayTo]

I wonder when the “Plug & Play” will come into play?