zack50: You don't know the answer. Yet you yapon and on with endless stream of bather. I know they have costless collars with the upside capped at 80-85. That was from the presentation. I stated that. I wanted to know the volumes involved. You input was they have costless collars on some production with 80-85 upside. No kidding, you vacu0us b00b. Here's a question you might be able to answer. How many times a week to you give PC a b.j0b