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STUDENT TRANSPORTATION INC 5.25 PCT DEBS > Drip - response from IR
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Post by d_trump on Dec 14, 2015 5:43pm

Drip - response from IR

last week I emailed IR and suggested the drip should be cancelled because it offsets the ncib. Got a reply today - they said drip participation is 5% and that they will be discussing it at the next board meeting.
Comment by ffhwatcher3 on Dec 14, 2015 11:12pm
Last year the dividend was something like $33-34M.  DRIP was about $8.5M in cash savings for the company.  I realize you are pushing to stop the DRIP but do you understand where that $8.5M would have come from last year if they didn't have the DRIP?
Comment by d_trump on Dec 15, 2015 9:16am
The drip is currently saving them less than $3M per year: 96M shares x 5% x .44 x 1.35 = $2.85M However it is costing them dilution (2.5M shares per year) and it's offsetting the benefit of the share buyback.  Why buy back shares and then turn around and re-issue them?
Comment by ffhwatcher3 on Dec 15, 2015 9:43am
Last quarter they issued 492,040 shares for the DRIP. I realize IR told you 5%, which it may be right now but as of last quarter, the DRIP saved them $1.7M (US$).  On Oct 15, 2015 SCNF rec'd almost 84k shares from the DRIP.  136k, 109k + 93k are the SNCF DRIP shares from last quarter alone. Your numbers are not adding up, unless SNCF pulled the rest of their shares out of the DRIP ...more  
Comment by BlueCollar51 on Dec 15, 2015 9:53am
In 2016 Q1 financials the value of the DRIP shares issued was $1.99m. There was $8.521m cash dividends paid. That implies a DRIP participation of 18.9%. According to my calculations based on the publicly available information SNCF received abt. 72% of the DRIP shares issued in Q1.   They have told you that the current DRIP participation is 5%. What is the reason for the substantial reduction? ...more  
Comment by d_trump on Dec 15, 2015 10:07am
Yes perhaps SNCF has withdrawn? Here is the email: Hi xxxxx, Thanks for your e-mail. The DRIP currently has around 5 percent participation but we will be reviewing the strategy at the upcoming Board meeting. Best regards, Doug Doug Coupe Director of Communications & Investor Relations Student Transportation, Inc. 843.884.2720 x213
Comment by ffhwatcher3 on Dec 15, 2015 11:12am
Not doubting IR said what they said. Maybe they have 200 shareholders and 10 of them are enrolled in the DRIP :-)
Comment by jammo71 on Dec 16, 2015 7:11am
Maybe I'm missing something but wouldn't SNCF unloading 4 million shares in Q1 explain the reduction in the DRIP? This presumes that whoever bought the shares didn't sign up for the DRIP but it seems like a pretty reasonable explanation.
Comment by ffhwatcher3 on Dec 16, 2015 11:09am
SNCF had 15M shares. Sold 4M. Hold 11M. If 96-97M outstanding, that is more than 11% of the shares outstanding. They used to represent about 60% of the DRIP, according to SEDI and company reports. As recent as Oct. SNCF were still receiving about 85k shares/month from the DRIP, so something had to  happen after Oct with the SNCF shares or the 5% number was an error. Pet Peeve - Denis comes ...more  
Comment by BlueCollar51 on Dec 16, 2015 12:22pm
I have posted the reasons that make me suspect that SNCF has withdrawn their shares from the DRIP.   Regardless of the cause the substantial reduction in DRIP participation to the current 5% as told to d_trump by the IR dept. will have consequences. Although the “Dilution by DRIP” will be reduced there will be a corresponding increase in the CASH dividend obligation going forward.   The ...more  
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