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Good yield with both. 5G is not very mature, but will work out well over the next several years. Lots of growth in data. Debt-oriented companies in a high interest rate environment, this has hurt them both. Need to rationalize their businesses, but government intervenes when it chooses, as with BCE layoffs. So they have to be careful. Tough slug with BCE. Issue is that people are worried dividend will be cut, or that assets will be sold to cover it. Yield is almost 9%, but he doesn't "think" they'll cut it. May have to sell more assets to bring down debt. Don't switch at these levels. Hold, and hope for better times ahead. Telus is incredibly well run. Includes a number of great businesses they've developed and brought out in public.
