RE:It's the CopperCopper price probably won't affect share price in the short term. Any extra cash flow will just go into Florence and reduce the debt TKO will have to borrow in 2019. The conference call was very good this time and provided some new information. According to McManus, the PTF will be completed in late 2018 and will then have to run for about a year to see if they can control the fluids and, in fact, to see if it works. Then you could start the full production operation which would take at least a year so we are now into 2020 or 2021. The good news is that even of Florence does not work you have only wasted about $125MM and you still have a very good revenue producer in GIB. If GIB was a stand alone asset I estimate it would generate about $.40/share with decent copper price and 250MM shares outstanding. That is worst case. We are all still betting on Florence to succeed but definitely a long term hold.