RE:RE:RE:$4.40 copper averageYes. Cash is the goal. Russ and McManus have generated 900 million of cash over their tenure. Where is it? Current cash is entirely bought deal and upsized bond deal. It has all been put back into GIB and pipeline. I suspect GIB C1 has been understated for many years as it seems to take massive capex to keep it going. Russ and McManus have apparently missed the boat having been caught moving between pits while the price of copper has been running. Could be why they both are punting, not anxious to go through another conference call. Plus having been so positive on last call that Flo permit would be released in June. It is positive that Stuart mentioned that Q2 production was up over Q1 in his last interview. I don't expect much in the way of EPS for Q2 but a nice positive number would be a real boost for SP.