Post by
copperminer on Dec 03, 2020 5:37pm
Re Stuart Interview
Thought the interview was very even and steady, sticking to the known facts, What I found to be new was the interest from metal product manufacturers in considering a joint venture. Lets one know that we really got something in the Florence. Even a group of manufactures could deal. What an opportunity for all.
The reference about the permit issuers wanting futher mitigation before permit issue is a speculation. We have been surrounded with State and Fed investigation for over two years. That was the whole reasson for the plant and well pod being built, show and tell
Go Florence
Comment by
dheadley on Dec 03, 2020 7:20pm
Got a link? I doubt Brian would say the permit is a done deal. That coud get him in all kinds of trouble if things don't pan out.
Comment by
CdnScorpion on Dec 03, 2020 7:30pm
In the Stuart Interview it was mentioned that the NPV of florence is $700 million, so if we are doing a JV for 30%, we had better be getting around $200 million, which basically pays for the upf front capex. Selling 30% for $100 million is way under pricing it.
Comment by
nofluff on Dec 03, 2020 7:42pm
We already sold 30% for 30 milloon on pp Scorp. So not going to get 200 million for the next 30%. The vultures r circling. Bankers lined up at ncu to compete for the opp. No one will touch tko. Looks like we will sell at best price available. I would now b happy with 250 mil for 50%. That would value flor at 500 mill. So sh vould get close to a buck move. If I get 2.50 quick, I am gone. nf
Comment by
nofluff on Dec 03, 2020 7:59pm
It was actually 30% for way less than no cost. Yup!!!! nf
Comment by
nofluff on Dec 03, 2020 8:02pm
But kers keep it generous. nf
Comment by
nofluff on Dec 03, 2020 8:04pm
U got that right scorp. This has become crazy. nf
Comment by
BigCountry on Dec 03, 2020 10:16pm
Don't worry, management will get us the worst deal as usual.
Comment by
JCSunsfan on Dec 04, 2020 10:31am
He said it in the interview. They are expecting $100- 125 million us from a jv. They are going to finance the rear with cash on hand, financing and maybe a little further dilution. He said it. The only question is what percentage will draw that much cash.
Comment by
fishmillion on Dec 04, 2020 10:40am
200- 300 million jv for 75%.. " expecting" in tko speak means absolutely nothing.....
Comment by
JCSunsfan on Dec 04, 2020 10:28am
Sounds to me like he was saying 20% for $100-125 million. That's probably optimistic though.
Comment by
JCSunsfan on Dec 04, 2020 11:56am
I kinda assumed that the additional engineering cost was about optimizing the build on the production facility rather than getting permits, but I was reading between the lines there. He did mention the additional engineering costs when he was talking about the build out.
Comment by
JCSunsfan on Dec 04, 2020 10:24am
The benefit is that Florence puts out copper cathode so it's more usable for manufacturers and does not need further refinement. I am not sure how that impacts return.