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Vermilion Energy Inc. T.VET

Alternate Symbol(s):  VET

Vermilion Energy Inc. is a Canada-based international energy producer. The Company seeks to create value through the acquisition, exploration, development, and optimization of producing assets in North America, Europe, and Australia. Its business model emphasizes free cash flow generation and returning capital to investors when economically warranted, augmented by value-adding acquisitions. The Company’s operations are focused on the exploitation of light oil and liquids-rich natural gas conventional and unconventional resource plays in North America and the exploration and development of conventional natural gas and oil opportunities in Europe and Australia. The Company operates through seven geographical segments: Canada, the United States, France, Netherlands, Germany, Ireland, and Australia. In Canada, the Company is a key player in the highly productive Mannville condensate-rich gas play. It holds a 100% working interest in the Wandoo field, offshore Australia.


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Comment by WheresMeGoldon Apr 04, 2020 8:46am
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RE:Great Depression Market Again?

RE:Great Depression Market Again?The study you offer is interesting. I will offer a simpler view on our current situation that isn’t more pleasant. Going into this global shutdown of commerce and resulting demand shock the level of low-grade debt had never been higher. Global equity valuations in relation to earnings may not have been at historic highs but were close. Government debt globally before all of this easily had never been higher.

From a financial perspective the world is incredibly ill-equipped to handle what has happened and to bounce back whenever this is over. The level of loan defaults will be absolutely staggering. The double whammy of earning declines and PE contraction will be staggering. Government debt to GDP combined with bond yields pressing 0% will turn the world Japanese. And the world won’t handle being Japanese as well as the highly disciplined, educated, and homogeneous Japanese.

The epic hangover from the epic party has just begun. Owning companies like VET will make your portfolio extremely vulnerable. JMHO. GLTA.

ckwong wrote: There is some similarity between the Depression and current situation.
  1. World production dramatic reduced, i.e. PMI well below 50 and into the 30. Today is caused by the COVID-19 lock down.
  2. The world shifts from globalization to localization. In the 1920’s America was the world manufacturer. Now China is the world manufacturer. The weakness of globalization to reduce production cost (not price) creates a point of weakness in supply chain.
The event started quick and people was optimistic that it would not last long. It may be or may not be. This is butterfly effect that will be hard to predict. The symptom is spending reduction. Today we cannot spend physically but we do have the cyber world that continues to provide service.

From the investment perspective, the market during the Depression is depict in the following two Dow Jones charts. The first is the monthly close chart. The other is the peak and value and volume chart.





You can see that the index rose from around 250 to 375 which is 50% gain. Similar to what we have today rising from 20,000 to close 30,000. Then it was followed by the first drop below the beginning of the rally. We did have DJIA fell below 18,000 at the end of March. Then rally up 50% before the long lower low descend until 40. Hope this will not happen.

Should you plan for the worst, this is what you need to plan for.

The tricky one is that, the rally from November 1929 to April 1930 was 52% from the low which is very convincing and enticed people entering the market. There was bottom buy high volume to convince the technical. 

In reality, retrospectively, the recover did not start until volume was much lower. An indicator that reflects the market trend was the On Balance Volume (OBV) which is the green line. The OBV is not 100% accurate. The last leg down was 50% for a period of 5 years while the OBV stayed high.

The following is the table showing the percentage of loss and gain and the duration in months.

Begin End Months From To Change % Total Volume Average Volume Peak Volume
31-Oct-28 30-Sep-29 11 233.6 386.1 152.5 65.30% 947,050,000 86,095,455 91,150,000
30-Sep-29 27-Nov-29 2 386.1 195.35 -190.75 -49.40% 207,380,000 103,690,000 73,730,000
27-Nov-29 30-Apr-30 5 195.35 297.25 101.9 52.20% 385,140,000 77,028,000 104,070,000
30-Apr-30 29-Jul-32 27 297.25 40.56 -256.69 -86.40% 1,134,090,000 42,003,333 21,210,000
29-Jul-32 31-Mar-37 56 40.56 195.59 155.03 382.20% 2,038,240,000 36,397,143 46,240,000
31-Mar-37 30-Apr-42 61 195.59 92.69 -102.9 -52.60% 1,108,690,000 18,175,246 6,950,000
30-Apr-42 31-Dec-42 8 92.69 120.19 27.5 29.70% 81,290,000 10,161,250 17,990,000

The Spanish flu from 1919 did not caused the Great Depression. But the combination of COVID-19 and the intention to kill shale oil (i.e. killing American oil industry) is the main effect black swans. The collapse of American shale oil will definitely have a significant effect to world demand.


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