RE:Copper $4.334.36. And were stuck at 1.66. Cmon. I keep saying it's broken. If it's not then what gives? If I were an insider and truly believed, I'd buy like crazy even if I had options given that the value of the trade at this moment is criminally undervalued. The vital issue is if you believe. Now back to my perpetual point of its capex is too big and majors won't get burned again. Paul even said it the last time he gave his perfunctory presentation. He actually said that the price to build this mausoleum has grown substantially from the last estimate configured almost 10 years ago. The only possible silver lining is that insiders are in blackout and can't buy or sell because a deal is in the works. The corollary of that silver lining is that given the aforementioned dark capex cloud, the best we can hope for is 2.50 to 3 bucks. That's assuming a major is even ready to bite. Chris and Paul know this. Although chris is gone. That's the gig ladies.