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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Western Copper and Gold Corp T.WRN

Alternate Symbol(s):  WRN

Western Copper and Gold Corporation is a Canada-based exploration stage company. The Company is engaged in developing the Casino Project. The Casino Project is a copper-gold mining project in Yukon, Canada. The Casino porphyry copper-gold-molybdenum deposit is located in west central Yukon, in the northwest trending Dawson Range mountains, approximately 300 kilometers (km) northwest of the... see more

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Western Copper and Gold Corp > Sell on news ?
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Post by Marine2 on Jan 17, 2023 11:04am

Sell on news ?

Sell on news ?

Market sentiment as to when a buyout offer will be made and at what price ?

Playiers heading to the table, who will be first Rio ? may ay not ba first ! IMO

Sorry, but after 17 Yrs I am happy with results to date,, no more dilution let a major carry Casino through to production.



T:WRN - WESTERN COPPER AND GOLD CORP - https://www.westerncoppercorp.com

Sym-X Bid - Ask Last Chg %Ch Vol $Vol #Tr Open-Hi-Lo Year Hi-Lo Last Tr News Delay
WRN - T   3.1 2.48 · 2.49 2.6 2.48 -0.06 -2.4 141.7 347 221 2.53  2.55  2.48 3.00  1.56 10:41:12 06:30 realtime
TSX - T 3.1 2.48 · 2.49 2.6 2.48 -0.06 -2.4 72.6 177 111 2.53  2.55  2.48

M2
Comment by jclarke042 on Jan 17, 2023 11:14am
Step 1: String the market along for nearly a year. Step 2: Finally release studies that quite honestly, most investors without a geology background don't really understand - myself included. Paul did allude to this earler, so credit where due. Step 3: Include in those results obviously weak drilling intercepts. I'm taking the anomoly as being inconsequential at best, a waste of time ...more  
Comment by GardenManman on Jan 17, 2023 1:21pm
“yeah. I mean. We have done an incredible drilling  campaign ” Paul repeated.
Comment by IvanRo on Jan 17, 2023 2:38pm
These are pretty good MET results given the tonnage WRN have and pretty much as expected and upside on the gold recoveries adds to the appeal. If Clarke is correct, this starts the clock.on Rio. By late Q2 / Q3 offers will be on the table!
Comment by jclarke042 on Jan 17, 2023 2:44pm
For the uninitiated, Ivan's referring to a Rio SEC filing accompanying the 12 month extension November 23rd. From Item 3, Paragraph 4: "On November 23, 2022, RTCI also exercised its rights under the Investor Rights Agreement to extend RTCI’s rights ..... through November 28, 2023, or through the date that is six months after the completion of the Study, as applicable." ...more  
Comment by Sooner on Jan 17, 2023 6:54pm
Ivan how to interpret the results of the deep anamoly? I mean why can't they boil it down to how much metals estimated in that area and average grades of entire area???
Comment by CopperAndGold14 on Jan 17, 2023 10:07pm
It's impossible to make an estimate of the deep anomaly based on one drill hole. There are deep rock mines 900+ meters deep that are economically extracting gold at 4g/t from veins 3 meters in thickness. But without a lot more holes, WRN can't build out the extent of the high grade portion of the anomaly. It's a red herring at this point, but it does provide a tantalizing glimpse of ...more  
Comment by IvanRo on Jan 18, 2023 5:44am
Pretty much what CopperandGold said. 1 drill hole isn't enough and add to that fact that they only penetrated about 200m (1/6th of the way) into the anomaly which, correct me if I am wrong, is about 500m wide and 1300m long and starts at 800m (total depth 2100m). Basically, they would need about 3-5 drill holes penetrating much deeper into the anomaly say to a depth of 18-1900m instead of the ...more  
Comment by Sooner on Jan 18, 2023 6:09am
Thanks. So not a "game changer" and likely never was a remote chance in that.  Really confusing that when WRN issues a PR like that in the met and drill results they don't give some added tidbits ... like at current spot ($4.3cu; $1909au; $30mo)....that NPV is about $6B with Moly and Cu both adding $1.5B to NPV... Moly current spot is a much bigger deal than the anamoly ...more  
Comment by jclarke042 on Jan 18, 2023 8:53am
sooner: "Thanks. So not a "game changer" and likely never was a remote chance in that. " Not even close. And hopefully they forget any fantasy about drilling this thing further. Enough with the distractions. This is a company that's refusing to put in big, bold letters: "This ends Rio's checklist of project level items," and you think they're going to ...more  
Comment by Sooner on Jan 18, 2023 9:17am
Clarke - is Moly really $33 lb now??? I realize highly volatile on this...but at that rate it would add $6.7B to revenue over 27 years or about $2.8B NPV....in usd. That alone more than doubles the NPV headline number in corp presentation!!!! Yeah yeah I get it...no major would ever assume that in the acquisition price but it is at least a feather in the hat during negotiations....and at a minimum ...more  
Comment by jclarke042 on Jan 18, 2023 9:33am
"is Moly really $33 lb now???"  I don't know, and I don't really care. Can anyone, without Googling, explain what Moly is used for? I certainly can't. And it's not that "no major would ever assume that...." more than it's inconsequential in any marginal buyer's decision to get in. They're primary consideration will be "is someone willing ...more  
Comment by IvanRo on Jan 18, 2023 9:58am
Moly is mainly used for Steel production and alloys... Which to be fair to Sooner is a useful addition / would be of some interest to Rio. However, to your point Clarke, it is a byproduct - the main attractions are Copper and Gold with a silver and moly kicker.
Comment by Sooner on Jan 18, 2023 10:49am
IvanRo - sorry to be obtuse ....but here's something to consider ---- Mo in FS was $14 - currently $33  Cu in FS was $3.6 - currently $4.3 Spot Mo adds nearly 3 times more to NPV than Cu ---- or said another way, it would take Cu at $5.2 (from $3.6) to have same impact as Mo from $14 to $33 in the NPV. At least that's what my spreadsheet shows! I simply cannot accept that Mo is a ...more  
Comment by IvanRo on Jan 18, 2023 1:02pm
You're not being obtuse chief. I get your point but when I look at the Feasibility Study and see that Copper and Gold is ~83% of revenue over the life of mine with Moly being ~14% and Silver making up the gap (At FS prices). Then in my view Moly is a side show. Use your model to re-run the numbers based on latest spot prices? And see if there is a significant change in revenue %s ?? Also, if ...more  
Comment by Sooner on Jan 18, 2023 1:15pm
Spot vs FS revenue over 27 years  Cu = $18B - 42% Au = $10B - 25% Mo = $13B - 31% Ag = $1B - 2% So Moly is bigger than Gold in terms of revenue at current $33/lb. Even Moly at $26 is equivalent to Gold....yet no one cares...haha...aside from me and you. 
Comment by Sooner on Jan 18, 2023 1:23pm
sent follow up to Sandy -w/Paul on cc:  Hi Sandy Have you had a chance to review?   I note Mo is $33 but in my file I used $21….   So it seems Moly is actually a BIGGER contributor to revenue during the 1st 27 years of mine (aka FS) than Gold…by about $3B. Even Moly at $26 appears to be an equal revenue generator as Gold at $1900.   So, I’d really like to understand why this ...more  
Comment by Marine2 on Jan 18, 2023 1:26pm
Sooner I care, great numbers on Moly I Maybe Paul will comment on the Moly component in his next webinar / interview ? Ask Sandy / Paul if they noticed the Moly prices . M2
Comment by Sooner on Jan 18, 2023 3:04pm
Sandy noted moly price to me after her discussion with Paul in response to my question about the village idiot Kai comment on NPV < capex. Comment was with cu at 4? Gold at $1900 and moly at $32...IRR around 30% and NPV over $5b. However, no investor would be able to decipher that from corp premium because moly not even on the sensitivity scale...only copper and gold. Technically we're a ...more  
Comment by IvanRo on Jan 18, 2023 1:33pm
Now that is significant, anything on the longer term price projections for Moly? Will see if I can build a full discounted casflow - have a couple that O may be able to repurpose.
Comment by CopperAndGold14 on Jan 18, 2023 9:27pm
Sooner, here's a little trip down memory lane to a WRN press release from November, 2010, around 15 months after I purchased my first shares.  It shows that Dale clearly understood the value of the molybdenum in the deposit.  I see it too, and thanks for keeping us focused on the total value of the future revenue stream. "Western Copper Corporation ("Western Copper" ...more  
Comment by GardenManman on Jan 18, 2023 9:58am
As we talked before, "Game changer drilling " is overthinking because it is not expensive that wrn can afford to do it at anytime. Why did they do this after decades later.  They just wait Rio to write check, they must do something and show in order to collect the annual options. Useless drilling, interview, some roadshow... consuming money , dilution and wait the major  to ...more  
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