The Real Shameis not the poster Doube. After all, if you review his entire history from his very first post, you could only conclude he or she is a minor league professional pumper or is indeed a shareholder who thinks he or she is actually helping the cause when in fact, he or she has loss any credibility one may have had initially in he or she. In either case, he or she will continue to type away because it's either their job to or in their head their duty to. Spacedoc, was bullish when Grandich was and said so here and when Grandich went South on SGC so did he. His new found good leaf again? Anybody's guess but not worth losing any sleep over. Now Tony I feel for. He's a good egg, bar-none. But because he has decided to overlook what me, cashtango and many others chose not to, has come down on believing nothing to gain by criticizing and if it means supporting a pumper like Doube, it can only help. Ok, fair play with that. The real shame is when you take away all this back and forth here, what do we have? SGC is just a few cents from it's all-time low. Grandich, who for years was their biggest cheerleader and ended up their largest single shareholder, obviously saw one or more things to cause him to cut off his nose to spite his face by totally divorcing himself from SGC. If you put your self in his shoes, he's either really stupid or just may be the man of high integrity I and many others think (sorry Andy-lol). The fact that after Grandich divorced himself a poster Lucky came here and spilled the beans on the Chinese bid, which was then followed by the website claiming the Chinese bidder left and since then not a peep about M & A from the company (not counting Doube-lol) and well, if it walks like a duck.... So despite reported road shows, new IR and Doube, Doube do, we trade mostly by appointment only and it appears Doube, Tony and a couple of others are much smarter than the entire investment world that continues to ignore SGC. To the many friends I met here and PM with, is the real shame!!!