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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum VentriPoint Diagnostics Ltd V.VPT

Alternate Symbol(s):  VPTDF

Ventripoint Diagnostics Ltd is a Canada-based medical device company. The Company is engaged in the development and commercialization of diagnostic tools that monitor patients with heart disease. It is developing a suite of applications for all heart diseases and imaging modalities, including congenital heart disease, pregnancy, pulmonary hypertension, COVID-19, imaging, and cardiotoxicity in... see more

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VentriPoint Diagnostics Ltd > VPT and COVID
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Post by GrahamB on Mar 28, 2021 7:41am

VPT and COVID

There has been videos discussing the impact and potential demand for VPT give the COVID pandemic and cardiac complications being seen.

Plenty if excitement and predictions of units needed, sales, buyout of the company....

Great...

'This is important,and promising,  but what are the facts that there is truly any demand or requirement for this technology for investigation of the cardiac manifestations of COVID-19?

 

Is there evidence that existing technology is inadequate, or that there are other advances that are not available?

Please-provide the evidence for this, links to papers, interviews with unpaid cardiologists, research articles....

 

I have done a superficial dive and from what I can tell, existing tech tools are working and are being used by physicians now , and that physicians like the ability to use handheld ultrasound VSACAN extend , as a rapid tool to ne used to limit time with patients

 

‘With that system [Vscan Extend], I’m in the room 10 minutes max. With the other system, if I had to boot it up, boot it down, clean it all (because we do a clean in the room and a clean out of the room) you’re talking extensive time, like over an hour.”

 

https://www.gehealthcare.com/article/using-handheld-ultrasound-to-monitor-heart-conditions-in-covid-19-patients

 

I can find no evidence that any thought leader in Cardiology is stating that there is a need for the VPTtechnology, or such tech  that doesn’t exist, nor has any cardiologist, that is independent, out making statements about the huge promise of VPT 

I saw a cryptic statement here by a Dr who is anonymous ????

 

As noted in posts earlier, there’s not even any evidence that there’s any push for studies using this VPT technology with Covid patients

 

All this  promotion about multiple units being sold to monitor patients, speculation, being stated by those who have a vested interest with the machine, and cannot be validated in fact. Similarly there is no evidence of sales to this date.

 

That, and there is evidence that some of the Giants in ultrasound or are now working actively an artificial intelligence and have approved devices

 

https://www.ge.com/news/press-releases/ge-healthcare-receives-fda-clearance-vivid-ultra-edition-ai-powered-cardiovascular

 

 

Also there is active research going on in this area, and  in these papers, no mention of VPT as a threat

 

 

‘The proposed PLANet was extensively evaluated on the dataset of cardiac acquisitions for multi-structure ultrasound segmentation (CAMUS) and sub-EchoNet-Dynamic, which are two large-scale and public 2D echocardiography datasets. The experimental results show that PLANet performs better than traditional and deep learning-based segmentation methods on geometrical and clinical metrics. Moreover, PLANet can complete the segmentation of heart structures in 2D echocardiography in real time, indicating a potential to assist cardiologists accurately and efficiently.” Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1361841520302371?via%3Dihub

 

 

How does this compare to Ventripoints system?

 

What do others know of the key scientific differences of VPT vis a vis these new AI initiatives?

How does this differ (especially regarding accuracy (ie ICC using VPTs system-which are excellent according to the small Uof A study with 0.98 for LVEF, for example )

 

 

Why is there no indication in the scientific literature, or amongst those who have approved agents, to have any discussion of VPT , or is there any significant sales being announced?
 

I keep hearing and seeing posters that are saying that the sales were going to be announced that there’s a big news release coming out. But none of this jas happened, and there’s just a bunch of videos out there

 

 

So asking questions, and of course-I am not an expert(whom you should talk with) in this area, nor should anyone buy/sell based on what they read here(especially anything I say since I am the board idiot among other things )

Can anyone actually provide data, or are we onto a fresh round of insults, accusations, and hand waving?

 

Comment by MoPeter on Mar 28, 2021 10:26am
Ventripoint has units installed in some of the largest, most reputable cardiac centres in the world, including but not limited to: -MD Anderson (US) -Erasmus university (Netherlands)  -Peter Munk(Toronto) -The Maz/Stollery (Edmonton) -Kings College (London)  Not to mention the interest and apparent demand in China for a 2 generations old version I'm not going to argue the ...more  
Comment by GrahamB on Mar 28, 2021 11:48am
[/quote Mo- Thanks for your thoughts.   I agree, with the spirit of what you are saying-it seems logical.   The question I have is in confirming these thoughts.   To the point:   1.Ventripoint has as you say units installed in some of the largest, most reputable cardiac centres in the world -granted  But what were the terms of the installations?. Were ...more  
Comment by G1945V on Mar 29, 2021 8:11am
GrahamB,  why not forward your concerns to the company directly, rather than posting them here? I am sure Dr. George Adams ( Executive Chairman ) will be more than happy to answer all your concerns.  jmo G1945V
Comment by snuff133 on Mar 29, 2021 9:37am
Here's the link to the BioPub seminar , watch from the 10 minute mark to the 22 minute mark  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furl.emailprotection.link%2F%3Fb47q64hwvyDK3yTvs7lkjbj0mCF-2F-r4QGsPdKZiDUnDnZ5GVSXjNLQO1ZMbWoZ8qgdei9cWbkVm87IFlo83HQnrQrSn7ddzb4_AejiXBDAfLM2_mOrUpnWhchY05-EZ&data=04%7C01%7C%7C444490c914e04a9d180b08d8f2b77e59 ...more  
Comment by MoPeter on Mar 29, 2021 10:03am
Lots of good stuff in the last 20 mins as well. It's really baffling that this isn't way higher, considering
Comment by Pandora on Mar 28, 2021 11:29am
Anyone who is this negative to a product yet spends this much time to continuously berate the product while not having an investment just kind of solidifies the fact that there must be some value here. Otherwise, why would he bother? There's thousands of stocks out there he could waste his time on - yet he picks this one? Haven't looked at his profile but may he just jumps from one to ...more  
Comment by Lieob007 on Mar 28, 2021 6:17pm
Everytime when the VPT stock price decreased, I saw your post, good try. In another stock I Owned, I see someone bashed it every day, then the price increased from 0.2 to 2 within several months. I see the potential for VPT, the stock price will increase from 0.07 to 0.7 soon. Thank you for that, good time for longs to get cheaper shares.
Comment by TheeRook on Mar 31, 2021 2:31am
 There has been advancement in  porable MRIs. Bringing MRI to the patient, not the other way around.   Chairman and founder: Jonathan Rothberg Founded: 2014  Based: New York City and Guilford, Connecticut https://www.fiercebiotech.com/special-report/fierce-medtech-s-2020-fierce-15-hyperfine-research
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