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Xebec Adsorption Inc designs, engineers, and manufactures products that are used for purification, separation, dehydration, and filtration equipment for gases and compressed air. The company operates in three reportable segments: Systems, Corporate and other, and Support. Its product lines are natural gas dryers for natural gas refueling stations, compressed gas filtration, biogas purification,... see more

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Post by Gann999 on Feb 25, 2022 6:13am

Could they possibly

I wonder if next week when announcing the date for q4 financials if they would be confident enough to offer some range on where financials will fall. It could catch shorts by surprise if they threw out some numbers to reassure that q4 will indeed fall within or exceed guidance.
Comment by tony08 on Feb 25, 2022 8:39am
Like i already mentioned, i am not a day trader and i don't know much about shorters...... I understand the concept but something i find difficult to understand though is how come shorters are still at work against Xebec while the share price is so low..... Is'nt it very risquy for them at this level and also are'nt the gain they can obtain rather small??
Comment by Ciao on Feb 25, 2022 8:51am
I would agree that further gains on the short side is very limited if not already stretched. Someone had speculated it was a paired trade or hedge, long on oil/gas and short on cleantech. Overall, I would guess it's still a winning trade on paper, covering is something that could be painful and something they want to avoid (further manipulation of share price?).  The extremely high short ...more  
Comment by Hesiod07 on Feb 25, 2022 10:14am
When the market is consistently up 1-2% on a daily basis and this thing is consistently down 3-4% you know there's a problem. It's called a bear raid, and it is surely augmented by some shady dealings between hedge funds and their prime brokers. I think the Board should request a trading audit. It's their fiduciary duty to all shareholders. Is anybody with me, and do you want to ...more  
Comment by Ottery on Feb 25, 2022 10:16am
Xebec is doing terribly but my guy the market is not consitently up 1-2% since like November 2021. Of course XEBEC has been going bad for a year (although I have only been a shareholder since the summer) 
Comment by Ciao on Feb 25, 2022 10:29am
It's too easy to manipulate this stock. FCEL and XBC are down about 3% as of writing. It takes about 5M shares for FCEL to drop 3%, but only 60K shares of XBC to create the same drop. With respect to the shares o/s, it takes 1.3% of FCEL volume vs. only .038% for XBC. There is so much more leverage (30X plus) on a relatively illiquid stock such as XBC. Easy to manipulate. $80K worth of XBC ...more  
Comment by Hesiod07 on Feb 25, 2022 10:31am
Excellent analysis Ciao.
Comment by Ciao on Feb 25, 2022 10:44am
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just trying to understand the disconnect between the share price (valuation; BV, P/S) and the fundamentals of the company and believe short selling is now a big part of the story as we are in deep value territory. IMHO XBC is better positioned than other cleantech players currently and in the next decade(s) (that investor presentation day could be telling) The ...more  
Comment by HonestAl on Feb 25, 2022 3:02pm
You're joking right? I'd rather they conduct business and focus on becoming profitable rather than try and sooth hurt feeling over perceived manipulation or "bear raids".  If this was a blue chip stock, you'd have a leg to stand on perhaps. But a growth stock in a currently unloved sector who is still fighting for credibility and solid financial results......I'd ...more  
Comment by treehill on Feb 25, 2022 10:25am
I don't short, and perhaps am missing the point of the paired trade, but I don't follow the logic of going long oil/gas and short cleantech. To start with, any investor that just lumps companies into big categories such as cleantech and invests accordingly is asking for trouble. Market dynamics may be favorable for what XBC sells but lousy for wind or solar. As oil/gas go up, RNG gets ...more  
Comment by tamaracktop on Feb 25, 2022 8:58am
It is indeed very risky to be short at these levels, although the shorts are risking paper profits. Neverheless, nobody likes to watch their unrealized profits shrink or disappear, as all here who have watched the stock drop from $11 know all too well. The volume yeaterday was historic, by very recent standards, and although a positive close would have been nice, the 11% reversal off the low was ...more  
Comment by tamaracktop on Feb 25, 2022 9:25am
I forgot to conclude that post with the essence of my point. If there is indeed a short squeeze, when it's the shorts who decide to cover "en masse" as opposed to the sellers, you'll know it when you see it. I've seen quite a few, and they can be pretty obvious, sometimes characterized by consecutive days of opening gaps higher. I've always been surprised and more than ...more  
Comment by VicesVertus2222 on Feb 25, 2022 10:22am
TT, even though we had our disagreements over the last few years, I have been trading Xbc long and short as you probably noticed. But, this time (again ... lol) I will agree with you. I could be a retail shorters when I see the opportunity. I have shorted Xbc in the past, I saw it being over valued.  But nowadays, at these prices, I would never short the stock. Way too risky. This is ...more  
Comment by tamaracktop on Mar 08, 2022 10:13pm
February 25th, the day after Xebec traded at its low at $1.37, before the market opened. Given the timing, many times more applicable today than it was then.
Comment by Ciao on Mar 08, 2022 10:34pm
It's a short postiion way beyond being stretched. In the last 2 weeks of Feb. where the $1.37 low was hit, the short position increased 420K such that the total short position on the TSX is 6M shares as of Feb. 28.  As of Feb. 15, 4M shares are short on NASDAQ OTC as XEBEF. At high end 40K / day est. average (past 30 days), it'll take 100 days to cover. If you can't use TSX ...more  
Comment by tony08 on Feb 26, 2022 10:20am
Yesterday morning, after gann's post i asked these two questions about shorters and left for the day. This morning i took the time to read all your posts, analyses and explications......It's impressive all the tecnical knowledge some of you guys have and you sharing it with us is appreciated. All this confort me in my decision to invest for long in Xebec 
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