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Comment by LongGuyon Feb 08, 2018 4:58pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

Hmmm...still trying to understand...very much a beast above my current knowledge base.  You are right....no recession in sight...if anything full steam ahead once this overdue correctiion is done ...more  
Comment by marxisteon Feb 08, 2018 4:38pm

RE:RE:RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

HVI is linked to VIX and take value with time when VIX is kept low. It is as you say not too obvious in what derivatives they invest but historic curve is interesting.  We are not on the brink of ...more  
Comment by starman1975on Feb 08, 2018 4:36pm

RE:Svxy closed at 9.59 now at 10.5.

great update. I'm holding on to HVI. it doesn't decay.  what happened two days ago was a one time event. 
Post by sailor1986on Feb 08, 2018 4:34pm

Svxy closed at 9.59 now at 10.5.

All we need markets to calm down. Will this happen? Who knows.
Comment by LongGuyon Feb 08, 2018 4:33pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

Maybe I should have bought 10,000 shares..aaauu....greedy...hah. They have a Horizon guy on BNN right now. Thanks for tip.
Comment by sailor1986on Feb 08, 2018 4:27pm

RE:RE:RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

Svxy j/went up around 8%after hours 415pm.If market opens flat tomorrow hvi should be up around 8%
Comment by Contra_Manon Feb 08, 2018 4:20pm

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Titanic Economics

Added as now filled fifteen (15) HVI-T @ $1.72 to now hold 15/15 inventory allocation.
Comment by LongGuyon Feb 08, 2018 4:15pm

RE:RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

I've been trying to get a handle on this hvi.  I actively trade hnu hnd hou hod and realize the erosion that can occur with rebalance contango etc.  My question is exactly what does this ...more  
Post by lithomonon Feb 08, 2018 3:50pm

All were Warned about Horizons

Stay away from these Horizon's ETF's especially the volatility (VIX) as the plan is to wipe them out.  Move monies into hard assets in the ground like Lithium developers, for example ...more  
Comment by marxisteon Feb 08, 2018 3:37pm

RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

You are right.  From now or soon, when this stupid panic will end, HVI can retreive a lot of value .  It is what the HVI chart  shows since 10 years.  For those who do not ...more  
Comment by metakit1on Feb 08, 2018 3:19pm

RE:CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

The US firms are already on the US version of this fund. Here is one of the Credit Suisse lawsuits on HIV XIV lawsuit
Comment by Iseneschalon Feb 08, 2018 2:54pm

RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

$1.74 ?.........................I don't think so. You better adjust your chart for 2 splits........and I don't mean Reverse Splits . !!! Sh8t...........the 2012 stock market was up 50% from ...more  
Comment by tfbhg102938on Feb 08, 2018 2:36pm

RE:HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

not many people will have that kind of patient. Consolidation will be another option in here but not at this time. Market is still in the mood of sell-off so HVI wont get any benefit from it. We will ...more  
Post by AHybridofStreetandStocksmartson Feb 08, 2018 2:18pm

HVI traded as low as $1.74 on May 31, 2012 it took 5 years

and 2 months to get to $24.80;  let's hope it will recover faster this time and does not go bust instead; I just don't see an apparent reason for the sell-off,  hopefully, this will ...more  
Comment by AHybridofStreetandStocksmartson Feb 08, 2018 1:10pm

RE:positive outlook vs. negative whining.

The simple answer would be short sellers...
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