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BetaPro Natural Gas Leveraged Daily Bull ETF
T.HNU
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HNUZF
HNUs investment objective, is to seek daily investment results, before fees, expenses, distributions, brokerage commissions and other transaction costs, that endeavour to correspond to up to two times 200 Percentage the daily performance of the Horizons Natural Gas Rolling Futures Index the Underlying Index, Bloomberg ticker CMDYNGER. HNU is denominated in Canadian dollars. Any US dollar gains...
or losses as a result of HNUs investment are hedged back to the Canadian dollar to the best of its ability. The Fund To be successful in meeting its investment objective during the period, HNUs net asset value should have gained up to two times as much on a given day, on a percentage basis, as its Underlying Index rose on that given day. Conversely, HNUs net asset value should have lost up to two times as much on a given day, on a percentage basis, as its Underlying Index declined on that given day.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
Yes ! HNU history shows don't hold it more then 2 months at best if it goes on a uptrend. On the other hand , HND ,if it goes on a uptrend you can hold it for 6 months. But it all depends on the
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
The "Math" alone should scare the beegeebee out of anyone, never mind "fees" and "expenses" Understand the MATH, you understand WHY you can't hold long term.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
I understand the math but like I said ! These ETFs are not 2x on every given day, due to compounding effects, fees and ETF expenses.
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
This is too funny ! Thanks for the effort. I'll take my time and try to figure it out...
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
It always works out to be less, so you've calculated wrong. Ok, keep it short. Example 1 $2 to $2.05 to $2 Example 2 $2 to $1.90 to $2 Now calculate what the ETF share
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RE:RE:Does this look less "mumbo jumbo"?
OK I'm not that confused 2$ to 2.20$ is 10%... lol
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RE:Does this look less "mumbo jumbo"?
If you are not good at math..... Going from $2.00 to $2.20 is a gain of $0.20. What Percentage is that? $2.00 x ? = $0.20 ? = 0.20 / 2 = 0.1 Going
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
Meant to say ( I take the amount ) I look at the % drop of nat gas and multiply it by 2 , than I take that % and apply it to HND or HNU
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RE:Does this look less "mumbo jumbo"?
This makes more sense !
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
Buddy I appreciate the explanation.... My answer with your numbers is 2.05$ . I'm sure it's wrong ! lol What I like to do is , I look at the % drop of nat gas and multiply it by 2 , than I
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Does this look less "mumbo jumbo"?
NatGas Price % change ETF % change ETF Share Price 2.00 2.00 2.20 0.10 0.20 2.40
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There's no TRICK.... It's pure math.
It doesn't matter what numbers you use, what "sequence" you use. Make up your own numbers and do the math. Start off both Nat Gas Price of $2.00 and ETF $2.00 for easy
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RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
Moneyloop, I was just making it TOTALLY SIMPLE and CLEAR. The MATH shows you what you call your "decay". It doesn't matter the "sequence
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RE:RE:RE:RE:The Answer...... $1.86.... NOT $2.00 !!!! PURE MATH.
On a final note ! Definition of Mumbo Jumbo : language or ritual causing or intended to cause confusion or bewilderment. And seeing all those numbers , QUALIFY under bewilderment
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