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on Sep 01, 2015 2:29am
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact
Ok, that about settles it. If you buy HVI you are throwing your hat in the ring with this nut job, Mr year of the shemitah blood moon. I'd run from anything someone like this is buying.
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on Aug 31, 2015 3:41pm
Finally got my missing shares
Lesson learned - never buy when a split or consolidation is happening. TD is indicating that I bought at $ 18 for all shares. Actual should be $ 12 and change per share, I could have exited this
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on Aug 31, 2015 9:53am
RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact
Every time someone places a bet on the future move of the vix some computer some where hedges that risk and calculates the odds of your chances of exiting with a win and then places a corresponding
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on Aug 31, 2015 9:45am
RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact
I do agree with you.September gonna be very interesting.Watch out for BLOOD MOON. The “blood moon phenomenon” has been the talk of the Christian world in 2014 and 2015, as four lunar eclipse tetrads
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on Aug 31, 2015 9:13am
RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact
Trading it is the only way to win with the current volitility. watch it find a pattern and get in on the next cycle up and sell when it peaks or your in the money enough to much a few bucks, rinse and
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on Aug 31, 2015 9:12am
RE:HVI most important fact
REDARSETNEJ SAID:if the VIX index spikes by 100% (effectivly 80%) in one day, this fund shuts down? SO IT'S YOUR BRAIN DUMMY.TECHNICALY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
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RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact
Thanks redarTneJ.
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on Aug 31, 2015 4:17am
RE:RE:HVI most important fact
Unfortunately, with HVI there is little you can do to protect yourself. Options on HVI do not exist. Normally I would suggest buying deep out of the money put options to protect yourself in case of
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RE:HVI most important fact
So is there anything we could do to protect this? Thanks
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on Aug 28, 2015 3:32pm
HVI most important fact
Did you know that if the VIX index spikes by 100% (effectivly 80%) in one day, this fund shuts down? If you didn't know that, you shouldn't have been trading this. Even if the market is calm
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on Aug 28, 2015 2:43pm
Did you understand the risks?
I feel like the people who were aggressivly buying this fund, had little or no understanding of it's structure, or the true risks involved in delivering a seemingly "guaranteed investment
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on Aug 27, 2015 6:51pm
We all know the VIX is rigged
It is always rigged for the house, so you should know that before playing. It used to be buying the inverse was almost a garunteed winner - but apparently, the market manipulators no longer want us
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on Aug 27, 2015 6:32pm
RE:RE:Experts predict HVI
You can buy HVI and HVU and still lose everything on both. The problem is in the way these funds are structured and the inefficiancy evident in being too many levels removed from the underlying
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on Aug 27, 2015 6:15pm
RE:RE:Experts predict HVI
Once again the market has shown just how rigged it really is. Nothing is as it seems; giant super computers constantly changing the rules of the game to maximize returns and off load risks onto the
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on Aug 27, 2015 5:57pm
RE:Experts predict HVI
I suppose if S&P dropped to 1200 suddenly, then $ 2 is possible (unlikely, but possible). I am getting fed up with the way they game this now. S&P up 2.4 %, VIX down 14 % yet the futures go
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