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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Horizons ETFs Management (Canada) Inc - BetaPro S&P 500 VIX Short-Term Futures Daily Inverse ETF Class A BTTPF

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Comment by redarTneJon Sep 01, 2015 2:29am

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact

Ok, that about settles it. If you buy HVI you are throwing your hat in the ring with this nut job, Mr year of the shemitah blood moon. I'd run from anything someone like this is buying.
Post by mdaffinon Aug 31, 2015 3:41pm

Finally got my missing shares

Lesson learned - never buy when a split or consolidation is happening. TD is indicating that I bought at $ 18 for all shares. Actual should be $ 12 and change per share, I could have exited this ...more  
Comment by Nakateon Aug 31, 2015 9:53am

RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact

Every time someone places a bet on the future move of the vix some computer some where hedges that risk and calculates the odds of your chances of exiting with a win and then places a corresponding ...more  
Comment by sailor1986on Aug 31, 2015 9:45am

RE:RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact

I do agree with you.September gonna be very interesting.Watch out for BLOOD MOON. The “blood moon phenomenon” has been the talk of the Christian world in 2014 and 2015, as four lunar eclipse tetrads ...more  
Comment by Nakateon Aug 31, 2015 9:13am

RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact

Trading it is the only way to win with the current volitility. watch it find a pattern and get in on the next cycle up and sell when it peaks or your in the money enough to much a few bucks, rinse and ...more  
Comment by sailor1986on Aug 31, 2015 9:12am

RE:HVI most important fact

REDARSETNEJ SAID:if the VIX index spikes by 100% (effectivly 80%) in one day, this fund shuts down? SO IT'S YOUR BRAIN DUMMY.TECHNICALY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Comment by bulltraderron Aug 31, 2015 7:12am

RE:RE:RE:HVI most important fact

Thanks redarTneJ. 
Comment by redarTneJon Aug 31, 2015 4:17am

RE:RE:HVI most important fact

Unfortunately, with HVI there is little you can do to protect yourself. Options on HVI do not exist. Normally I would suggest buying deep out of the money put options to protect yourself in case of ...more  
Comment by bulltraderron Aug 30, 2015 7:55am

RE:HVI most important fact

So is there anything we could do to protect this? Thanks
Post by redarTneJon Aug 28, 2015 3:32pm

HVI most important fact

Did you know that if the VIX index spikes by 100% (effectivly 80%) in one day, this fund shuts down? If you didn't know that, you shouldn't have been trading this. Even if the market is calm ...more  
Post by redarTneJon Aug 28, 2015 2:43pm

Did you understand the risks?

I feel like the people who were aggressivly buying this fund, had little or no understanding of it's structure, or the true risks involved in delivering a seemingly "guaranteed investment ...more  
Post by mdaffinon Aug 27, 2015 6:51pm

We all know the VIX is rigged

It is always rigged for the house, so you should know that before playing. It used to be buying the inverse was almost a garunteed winner - but apparently, the market manipulators no longer want us ...more  
Comment by redarTneJon Aug 27, 2015 6:32pm

RE:RE:Experts predict HVI

You can buy HVI and HVU and still lose everything on both. The problem is in the way these funds are structured and the inefficiancy evident in being too many levels removed from the underlying ...more  
Comment by Nakateon Aug 27, 2015 6:15pm

RE:RE:Experts predict HVI

Once again the market has shown just how rigged it really is. Nothing is as it seems; giant super computers constantly changing the rules of the game to maximize returns and off load risks onto the ...more  
Comment by mdaffinon Aug 27, 2015 5:57pm

RE:Experts predict HVI

I suppose if S&P dropped to 1200 suddenly, then $ 2 is possible (unlikely, but possible). I am getting fed up with the way they game this now. S&P up 2.4 %, VIX down 14 % yet the futures go ...more  
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