RE: Manipulation Those Pinetree guys have good timing. In comparison to previous trades in the 40's and 30's and jumping the gun, I was very impressed with their last trade. They did not pounce on shares at 17 cents. Sat cool waiting through 16's, 15's, 14's not breaking a sweat, and managed to pick up a solid 1 million shares at bottom 13 cents. With friends like that, who needs enemies?