RE:navLogically that is likely true, but markets hate logic! Take a look at all Quadravests structured products, they are all getting hammered, so are other companies. Some is bank weakness, tax loss season and shorters are cleaning up. They have a few other stocks worth looking at ( INC, DS), only one is a Split Share with a lot of room on the NAV (BK), all with decent Divvy's, but for whatever reason they get less attention than FTN, DFN. They are all down, so the opportunity is there to diversify at the bottom and enjoy the ride back up. For now, this elevator is still going down!