RE:RE:RE:GREAT NUMBERSHi frewil11, good question as the banksters have had their way for what seems like forever. Imho, though I do think we are getting very very close to an upside explosion in Ag prices due to the simple fact that the physical markets are seeing shortages in the last year we have never seen before. Go to any dealer and see if you can get a hold of silver bars and coins in quantiy. It is almost impossible if you want to order size $50,000+ without delays of waiting 2 to 3 months if you are lucky. The premiums are going up like never before as well. People are waking up and demanding the real physical as opposed to the paper. Large hedge funds and wealthy individuals are getting into the physical. In addition, Basel 3 rules coming into effect next year for the London based bullion banks mean that it will be even more costly for them to deal in unallocated gold accounts and derivatives unbacked by the real physical. All the stars seemed alligned for an upward revaluation in Au and Ag. The banksters have pushed this paper game to the limit now and they know their time is running out hence that is why we are seeing the intense smash downs in PMs in the wee hours of the night before NY opens. All these signs point toward desperation to cover their massive short position. All manipulations end and it is getting very close imho.