RE :Where is the start of a turn-around ?Well,first off, its hard for a director to buy into a position, when Dyment will not even fill the vacancy. Who knows,if a new director was hired ,he/she may in fact (1) have great connections,(2) take part in buying shares. Its all about control I guess. No director filled, extra vote for ???.---- On the subject of directors, and shareholders, the only one left in the money is Dyment . The latest directors have only had one chance to excersise options, which they did at .38,so everyone except Dyment is ''out of the money''.---------- Dyment has 1440000 options available at .25 for .84 yrs from Aug/22 ,so I look for a new issue of options to directors and insiders at that figure. ---That begins to get all insiders back on track. ---It also raises cash (dilution yes) ,but cash ,to at least help fund operations . ---So: 2.64 mil drawn on L.O.C in 3rd Q, and $ 380000/month required there in . ---Revenue DOES pick up significantly , as bills for completed work/2022 roll in, however bulk of revenue is maint related as opposed to new sales. ---- Fill the director position, and get a sales partner.