RE:So I guess what we've seen since the stellar earnings report how else can MM get cheaper shares than the real value ?? ..they pound the price down with tiny transactions and blow out all the stop losses ( as much as they can ) buying up the shares ... it's been going on since the market was invented , and will never change ... the parameters may change but the basic strategy is the same ... my moto is : do it to them before they do it to us ... long term is the best strategy but sometimes you have to ride the wave in order to get ahead , especially with this stock right here ... between the bad reputation( govt money + large salaries) and family controlling the stock the bumps in the road will be many and hard to watch some times ... GLTA