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Hecla Mining Co HL.PR.B


Primary Symbol: HL

Hecla Mining Company discovers, acquires and develops mines and other mineral interests and produces and market concentrates containing silver, gold and other metals, carbon material containing silver and gold, and unrefined dore containing silver and gold. Its segments include Greens Creek, Lucky Friday, Keno Hill, Casa Berardi and Nevada Operations. The Company produces zinc, silver and precious metals flotation concentrates at Greens Creek and silver and zinc flotation concentrates at Lucky Friday. At Greens Creek, it also produces gravity concentrate containing payable silver, gold and lead. It also produces unrefined gold and silver bullion bars (dore) and loaded carbon and precipitates at Casa Berardi, which are shipped to refiners before sale of the metals to precious metal traders. Keno Hill is located in the Keno Hill Silver District in Canada's Yukon Territory. Nevada Operations consists of four land packages in northern Nevada totaling approximately 110 square miles.


NYSE:HL - Post by User

Comment by roberto146on Sep 07, 2024 11:20am
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RE:Hecla Mining remains on the high side with a forward EV/EBIT

RE:Hecla Mining remains on the high side with a forward EV/EBITEV/EBITDA = Fantasy number. EV (enterprise value) should maybe be EC, enterprise cost of potential acquisition.
EV= Market capitalization + total debt − cash and cash equivalents
EBITDA= Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization.
Wouldn't it be great to run a company that didn't have to pay any of the above? Unfortunately forebearance of depreciation and amortization becomes future capital expenditure/maintenance unless you have equipment that runs forever for free after you buy it.
Anyway ... the old-fashioned way:
2023 Net Income/(loss) = ($84.22 Million)
2023 Cash Flow = $1.63 Million
605MM shares outstanding
Net Income/(loss): (.14/share)
Share price 12/29/23: 4.81
Share price/Net Profit Price/Earnings multiple:
ZERO (or infinity, if you prefer).
Hecla P/E 2010-2024

NASDAQ P/E 2010-2024

P/E for both NASDAQ and DOW are inflated now, at about 50% higher compared to historic averages.
Also, Hecla:
Last 5 years: Revenue $3.611 Billiion
Last 5 years: Net Income/(loss): ($190 Million). Again, P/E ratio:
ZERO
Cash Flow: $79 Million
I like Hecla, and they've been good to me, but my point is that it's a cyclically speculative stock, recognize it as such, and that traditional or untraditional metrics don't apply as a valuation tool, rather it is married to the price and market sentiment according to silver/gold. A confounding signal is also the level of the general markets, especially DOW, NASDAQ.
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