RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:No good sign Well Frank, it's way above my head. Yeah what's the detivatives market worth these days? In the hundreds of trillions? There's no intrinsic value backing it. It's like a bet on a Yankees, Blue Jays game. Nothing more. The bet only has value if you win. Too complicated for me cause you're playing probabilities. OK so the shorters knew that bte dp and oil ptice would ptobably drop. What led them to that assessment? Some fundamentals somewhere goota be giving them guidance. For me, bte debtbis way yo friggin high. The management irrespinsibly exposed the company yo a dtop in oil price. Maybe that's the core fundamental dtiving the shorters. Management are a bunch if teits.