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Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.B


Primary Symbol: T.BBD.A Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It operates aerostructure, assembly and completion facilities in Canada, the United States and Mexico. Its robust customer support network services the Learjet, Challenger and Global families of aircraft, and includes facilities in strategic locations in the United States and Canada, as well as in the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, the United Arab Emirates, Singapore, China and Australia. The Company's jets include Challenger 350, Challenger 3500, Challenger 650, Global 5500, Global 6500, Global 7500 and Global 8000.


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Comment by Letsmakemoredolon Nov 19, 2024 9:44am
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Buybacks vs LTD repayment or a teeny tiny dividend

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Buybacks vs LTD repayment or a teeny tiny dividend
BBDB859 wrote: Lets

Naked shorting is the problem, and that's why having a small buyback program keeps the share price up, and scares a few of these players off. The Market Makers are smart, and control the SP if they are active in the Market. Remember that the MM's work at keeping the SP up, so that management can get a higher SP for their compensation when they sell in the open market. Just saying, we all benefit here. It seems that compensation payout in the form of Buybacks works well. Cheers



Letsmakemoredol wrote:
BBDB859 wrote: I beg to differ Lets. I think a small dividend is useless.

I think that Nordico's point, and even mine, on buybacks, which discussion started 2 years ago on this board is a better idea. To do buybacks is also a way to keep some of these shorts honest, and if they can cancel some shares along the way, then that's even a bonus.

Your idea about paying off Long term debt is good. No one here will argue with that.  The point here is, that we are too early for a dividend. Just wait for the LTD to get reduced first, then we can implement some form of Dividend. Right now the share buyback program is doing great.The way they've set this compensation up is smart, to influence the SP somewhat with the use of Market Makers.


Letsmakemoredol wrote:
Nordico wrote: No point in me debating the reasoning of executive share-based compensation; that's just the standard practice in North America, so doesn't matter whether I support it or not.

I'm saying a company should prioritize defending shareprice when shorts bring a valuation down to unreasonable levels (and may push it further if a company doesn't do buybacks), over spending that specific amount of money on debt, yes. Keep in mind Bomber doesn't need to do one or the other - they can and should do both: spend the bulk of net income on LT debt, while spending around $100M (1/5 of annual profit) on buybacks, which is what they're doing.

Letsmakemoredol wrote: Nordico, why do they need to?  Just cut a check to the executives for fair market value and be done with it.

So you are saying buybacks and canceling shares are a bigger issue than paying back the long term debt?  With BBD's debt and negative equity?





since it appears that 99% of executives immediately sell their shares, it would make it easier just to give them the cash in lieu, no difference from a tax perspective. I have zero issues with them receiving compensation, either in shares or in cash.
 
I think every dime, outside of executive compensation should be used to pay back debt or give shareholders a teeny tiny dividend, we deserve some rewards as shareholders too. I'm fine if the stock tanks, its easy money to grab more shares like I did late last week for a quick flip next month or early 2025.





859, my point is there are much bigger priorities than buyback for cancelation.  All that money should be going on LTD and I hope you agree.  Fine, skip my 2nd idea for a microscopic dividend, let's get rid of the negative equity!

Also if you weren't aware naked shorting is 100% legal in Canada, they don't need shares to short.




859, it doesn't keep the share price up with 99% of the shares given to executives are immediately sold back into the market.  Tell me how buying shares one month and then the next month or so selling them keeps the price up?

you are also saying buying shares for cancellation is more important than paying off the LTD?
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