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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Air Canada T.AC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ACDVF

Air Canada is an airline company. The Company is a provider of scheduled passenger services in the Canadian market, the Canada-United States (U.S.) transborder market and the international market to and from Canada. It provides scheduled service directly to more than 180 airports in Canada, the United States and internationally on six continents. The Company’s Aeroplan program is Canada's... see more

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Air Canada > That’s all folks
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Post by Veecee1 on Sep 04, 2024 3:53pm

That’s all folks

Looks like AC made its final offer, and it's a good one !
good luck with arbitration and public opinion if not accepted , highest paid in Canada 
Improvements to health and retirement benefits,
improvments to 1-4 year pilot salaries 
looks like all the boxes are checked 
Air Canada has offered to boost the pay of more than 5,000 pilots by about 30 per cent within the next three years, according to people familiar with the matter, as it seeks to prevent a strike.
Pilots at Canada’s largest airline would received a minimum 20 per cent increase up front, followed by annual raises over a three-year period, said the people, asking not to be identified because the discussions are private. Pilots with one to four years of service would receive more, the people said.
The offer means that a captain with 10 years of service flying a wide-body aircraft such as a Boeing 777 with a current salary of just over $350,000 per year may see an increase of more than $100,000 over the life of the contract, the people said. The airline’s offer also includes improvements in pension and health benefits.
ALPA’s local head, Charlene Hudy, declined to comment on the specifics of the proposal. But entry-level wages for pilots are an issue, she said. “One-quarter of our pilots have a second job, with almost 80 per cent of those needing the job out of necessity,” she said. “We are trying to change that.”

 

A meeting between the parties is expected later this week. As of last week, the talks had “completely stalled,” Hudy added.

When it is in force, we want our pilots to remain the best-paid commercial pilots in Canada by far,” Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick by email. “We are open to any solution to reach a reasonable settlement, including arbitration.”

 

Canada’s No. 2 airline, Onex Corp.-controlled WestJet Airlines, agreed to a contract in 2023 that included a 24 per cent compensation bump over four years.

Comment by 1condor on Sep 04, 2024 10:36pm
Its been a while but I am back in for a trade. Stock is oversold and the short squeeze should be very nice indeed. Similar to my last trade in the early spring I will ride it up for a 20-25 percent gain. Get on board folks.
Comment by caddisfly on Sep 05, 2024 10:22am
I will put this on a watch list but in my opinion it looks like a tax loss candidate. End of October maybe go time.
Comment by jjwilson on Sep 05, 2024 2:18pm
Its been a while but I am back in for a trade. Stock is oversold and the short squeeze should be very nice indeed. Similar to my last trade in the early spring I will ride it up for a 20-25 percent gain. Get on board folks. Too bad you didn't wait another week and a half - could have made 30-35% rather than 20-25%. No doubt a big run is coming but I don't think we've seen the bottom ...more  
Comment by Nordico on Sep 05, 2024 2:54pm
Don't think we've seen the bottom yet? Now you're just being overtly bearish. It would need to go down sub-14.50 before the labor impasse is resolved within a couple of weeks, which is very unlikely.
Comment by Tempo1 on Sep 05, 2024 3:26pm
Yep, not easy for ALPA to call for a strike with the last AC offer. ...and if so, easy for the Gvmt to call a mandatory back to work the day after.  There's now simply no rationale for a strike. 
Comment by jjwilson on Sep 05, 2024 3:42pm
Yep, not easy for ALPA to call for a strike with the last AC offer. ...and if so, easy for the Gvmt to call a mandatory back to work the day after.  There's now simply no rationale for a strike. You're funny.  Naive, but funny.
Comment by Tempo1 on Sep 05, 2024 6:36pm
Huummmm. Your explanations are a bit shorts for calling this naive and funny.  With this offer, Nobody will approve ALPA for the country disturbance if they call the strike and the government will have full support for a back to work call. The public opinion score will be something like 9 to1. If true this offer is already a victory for ALPA, these hikes are largely over what was ...more  
Comment by jjwilson on Sep 05, 2024 6:47pm
Your explanations are a bit shorts for calling this naive and funny.  With this offer, Nobody will approve ALPA for the country disturbance if they call the strike and the government will have full support for a back to work call. The public opinion score will be something like 9 to1. If true this offer is already a victory for ALPA, these hikes are largely over what was obtained by ...more  
Comment by Tempo1 on Sep 05, 2024 7:39pm
I'm not interested by your personnal attacks. I'm stronger than that. The problem is that you didn't understand that a nation wide strike at Air Canada is a wider problem than AC and its pilots.  Population and Governments are directly concerned  and will act if necessary. And if the public approval barometer bench strongly on the governemnt intervention side; it will be ...more  
Comment by jjwilson on Sep 05, 2024 8:02pm
I'm not interested by your personnal attacks. I'm stronger than that. The problem is that you didn't understand that a nation wide strike at Air Canada is a wider problem than AC and its pilots.  Population and Governments are directly concerned  and will act if necessary. And if the public approval barometer bench strongly on the governemnt intervention side; it will be ...more  
Comment by Tempo1 on Sep 05, 2024 8:24pm
....I'm thinking the libs back off from the intervention - don't want to alienate the 30% of the workforce that are union members, still dealing with the rail situation worried about what Jughead might do, etc..... But all the 30% of the work force that are union members, didn't gain more than 12-15% for 3 year on their own last agreements. Will they support pilots unsatisfied with a ...more  
Comment by jjwilson on Sep 05, 2024 8:41pm
But all the 30% of the work force that are union members, didn't gain more than 12-15% for 3 year on their own last agreements. Will they support pilots unsatisfied with a 30% offer? Do you really think so?  ...and you call others naive!!!! You have no clue.  If you're getting your news from CBC or the main stream media you're like a kid in kindegarten trying to decypher ...more  
Comment by alive9well on Sep 05, 2024 4:41pm
Agree with Tempo's assessment of this situation. Some frills may get adjusted, but that's about it. Arbitration on the other hand, BINDING FINAL and IMPOSED would not bode well for the pilots.  Yep, not easy for ALPA to call for a strike with the last AC offer. ...and if so, easy for the Gvmt to call a mandatory back to work the day after.  There's now simply no rationale ...more  
Comment by jjwilson on Sep 05, 2024 3:37pm
Don't think we've seen the bottom yet? Now you're just being overtly bearish. It would need to go down sub-14.50 before the labor impasse is resolved within a couple of weeks, which is very unlikely. My apologies, I was speaking off-the-cuff.  I didn't mean that he would literally make 30-35% or that we'd set a new low.  What I was trying to say is that I expect the ...more  
Comment by Nordico on Sep 05, 2024 4:11pm
I'm thinking a strike or lockout will last for 2-3 days max; too much chaos.
Comment by 1condor on Sep 06, 2024 1:08pm
jjwilson...you could be right with a lower SP in September...but I suspect we are getting close to the bottom on this one...so I went in for a trade. 
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