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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Allied Properties Real Estate Investment Trust T.AP.UN

Alternate Symbol(s):  APYRF

Allied Properties Real Estate Investment Trust (Allied) is a Canada-based open-end real estate investment trust (REIT). Allied is an owner-operator of distinctive urban workspace in Canada's cities. Its business is providing knowledge-based organizations with workspace that is sustainable and conducive to human wellness, creativity, connectivity and diversity. Allied operates in seven urban... see more

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Post by masfortuna on Dec 15, 2023 8:24am

Beautiful!

$5 in shares and .48 in cash for a total of $5.48. Combine that with the 3xFed rate cuts announced and we should see this trading higher over the next few weeks.
Comment by Frankie10 on Dec 15, 2023 9:14am
This happens every year - people fail to understand what is happening. The non-cash portion is NOT a good thing - it is a tax bill. You should speak to your accountant. All the best.
Comment by stockrook86 on Dec 15, 2023 9:25am
True, will be interesting to see how it goes. $5 is less than what analysts were expecting and the implied gain of the UDC sale from the purchase price of about $300 million, must have been other offsets or a lot of capitlized costs.  I think Scotia was expected a $1.50-$2.00 tax for highest tax bracket (maybe 7-8 phantom).  This is much better than that, but hard to know how investors ...more  
Comment by Frankie10 on Dec 15, 2023 9:55am
Yes, I tax planned for a total $2 special distribution, 75% of which was non-cash... needless to say, I underestimated the tax burden. I'm unphased however as I trimmed 6% of my Dream Office position yesterday (units purchased in the $8's) - so I'm flush with liquidity. Plenty of time to tax harvest for the big boys and even more time to RRSP plan for the little boys. The only people ...more  
Comment by stockrook86 on Dec 15, 2023 9:58am
Ha, very true - too late for the buyer that probably put in a market buy at $21 first thing this morning thinking they were going to get immmediate 25% return.
Comment by Frankie10 on Dec 15, 2023 10:08am
Lmao - "a fool and his money are soon parted"
Comment by masfortuna on Dec 15, 2023 10:33am
 Ok thx Frankie.  I reread the release and it says the "balance of $5 paid in units" . It's a little confusing but at the end of the day I get .48 cents...
Comment by masfortuna on Dec 15, 2023 2:27pm
Also I have spoken to a few other individuals and from what they gather, they wil place $5 worth of shares per share in our account and then rebalance the account so you have the same amount of shares.  The detail you have left out is that the sp will increase by whatever the % increase in sp $5 worth of shares adds up to.
Comment by Frankie10 on Dec 15, 2023 3:05pm
Correct that the number of total units will remain unchanged post consolidation. I disagree that the unit price will increase by $5. It's important to understand what exactly is happening. The Trust is paying out 48 cents of cash. So in theory, the Trust would be worth 48 cents less per unit (post consolidation). That said, there is an undisclosed liability in the Trust, which is the latent ...more  
Comment by jack4567 on Dec 15, 2023 12:42pm
As a newbie to this kind of transaction, I appreciate your kind offer of help.  I understand that I am completely responsible for my own due diligence, and that you will not be providing any acutal investment/tax planning advice. Please let me know if my understanding of the special distribution sounds correct and complete, or if not, let me know where I have it wrong: The special ...more  
Comment by Frankie10 on Dec 15, 2023 3:14pm
1. Correct regarding income classification - perhaps not all, but most of it will be classified as a capital gain. Per the PR: "The special distribution is being made primarily to distribute to unitholders a portion of the capital gain realized by Allied during the 12-month period ending December 31, 2023, from the sale of the UDC portfolio. Accordingly, the special distribution will be in ...more  
Comment by TimeScape on Dec 15, 2023 3:48pm
I have gotten distributions like this "special distribution" many, many times over the years.  Basically meaningless to the shareholder, except for the tax that will need to be paid.  The $5 distribution doesn't impact the share price in any meaningful way.  The only thing you need to consider is that you will have a capital gain of $5 a share, half of which will be ...more  
Comment by jack4567 on Dec 15, 2023 4:19pm
Thanks, TimeScape--your specific example helps a lot.
Comment by jack4567 on Dec 15, 2023 4:10pm
Frankie10, this helps a good deal!  Thanks very much.
Comment by masfortuna on Dec 15, 2023 10:30am
 Not if it's in my TFSA :)
Comment by jmkOttawa on Dec 16, 2023 6:06pm
Correct 
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