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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Athabasca Oil Corp T.ATH

Alternate Symbol(s):  ATHOF

Athabasca Oil Corporation (AOC) is a Canadian energy company with a focused strategy on the development of thermal and light oil assets. AOC’s segments include Light Oil and Thermal Oil. The Thermal Oil segment includes the Company’s assets, liabilities and operating results for the exploration, development and production of bitumen from sand and carbonate rock formations located in the... see more

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Athabasca Oil Corp > Deal has been made. Shorts leave for a reason
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Post by bosstrade on Jan 07, 2021 5:18pm

Deal has been made. Shorts leave for a reason

29 million Shorts just don't leave without reason. Oil prices were still low when they left. There is a reason. There is a deal. Huge volume without increase in share price is natural when shorts left. But now that they have left for a reason, and large volumes still ongoing with oil price increases without a share price increase means a deal has taken place. 
i imagine a deal with stat oil to take a tax loss by releasing shares to market in huge volumes as ATH buys them back guareenting a large tax loss for Stat oil last year. Stat oil has agreed to finance a new deal and implement a royalty deal like Stat oil had before. This allows them to exit tar sands. Make money going down and up and a royalty they expected before. Brilliant if this is what happened. 
Stat drives price down by shorting unlimited shares. Takes tax loss. Then Stat and ATH gets rid of stat shorts, refinances debt, ATH buys back 10% of shares as they announced last year.  Compensate directors, get ready for the massive stock increase the min it's done. Stat gets tax loss, royalty they expected to get when previously selling, they maintain 50,000,000 million shares that will explode in price after deal is announced. Allows them to rid of oil sands which is a mandate. ATH doesn't announce until all shares are bought back. Shorts leave for a reason. 

Makes total sense. But I did say Trump would allow price to run up price larger in lame duck period or attack Iran which hasn't happened.

 
Comment by lovehockey on Jan 07, 2021 5:53pm
Problem with your theory is that 29 million shorts only existed on paper. If they existed on the market there would have been a major short squeeze. It would lift ATH price above 0.50 for sure. Outside of that I like your theory. 
Comment by bosstrade on Jan 07, 2021 6:10pm
https://www.canadianinsider.com/short-report?ticker=ATH
Comment by lovehockey on Jan 07, 2021 6:14pm
Trust me, I am aware. Explain to me how you can have 24 million share squeze in 2 week period without the price going up? They were never real!
Comment by bosstrade on Jan 07, 2021 6:40pm
Exactly. No squeeze. ATH bought them over 15 days while Stat loaded more on so the market so price didn't go anywhere. They also put the other 20 + mill shares on the market for ATH to buy. They can only buy 50,000,000
Comment by Chris007 on Jan 07, 2021 6:53pm
Where do you see that the company bought the shares? and in what capacity? Thats an awful lot of conjecture. If the case you put forward were actually true. That would very much be a material event requiring disclosure?
Comment by birdie22 on Jan 07, 2021 6:55pm
On Canadain exchanges only 14 million shares traded all of Oct. must have been private cross trade. House Positions for C:ATH from 20201001 to 20201031 House Bought $Val Ave Sold $Val Ave Net $Net 7 TD Sec 3,047,843 390,193 0.128 2,266,134 293 ...more  
Comment by fellowship on Jan 07, 2021 7:01pm
Sorry, I do not believe this since no announcement was made to TSX about stock buybacks.
Comment by Chris007 on Jan 07, 2021 7:07pm
The dude is bullsh it artist. He was the guy in september harping on how this thing would be $3 by now
Comment by bosstrade on Jan 07, 2021 8:04pm
Hey Chris, here is my post from Sept. I think it was pretty bang on. Please read and let me know if you still think I'm bs Ing or if you misread. "Unbeilable buying opportunity-vaccine near-shale done It's very easy to short during pandemic which we all have done. But shorting is over soon. As a short seller you cannot risk the potential of oil price spike with a vaccine ...more  
Comment by Chris007 on Jan 07, 2021 8:06pm
I still think you're bsing big time. cheers
Comment by bosstrade on Jan 07, 2021 8:12pm
Ok. I said 29 mill shorts will leave. Oil will go up until inauguration, we are lucky that Ath survived, unbeilable next yr for oil and the minute oil hits $60 this is a $3.00. pretty good I would say.  would like to here your predictions
Comment by Chris007 on Jan 07, 2021 9:06pm
I don't make predictions, quasimodo (I hope you like the sopranos reference Maxy Boy), because I don't pretend to have a crystal ball. That being said, the WTI spike to 50 has left ATH little changed. Late summer/early fall, this thing was around ).17-.2 as for the shorts, there wasn't much more reason to maintain a short postion, once this thing hit a market cap of around 70m. There ...more  
Comment by bosstrade on Jan 07, 2021 10:16pm
Gump, It is impossible to pick stocks without making predictions unless https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/70fcde10-3005-45ed-8cf1-1427012b19c5
Comment by Chris007 on Jan 07, 2021 10:23pm
It is, just not predictions about random walk events like your wrong election predictions et al. that being said, top marks for creativity.   
Comment by fellowship on Jan 07, 2021 7:16pm
@lovehockey the market is talking to you , please pay attention --- please revisit what we discussed.  Thank you for the bond financing article  @Chris
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