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Artis Real Estate Investment Pref Shs Series E > Random thoughts on the economy
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Post by Torontojay on Nov 16, 2024 7:01am

Random thoughts on the economy

The current 2 year treasury note is pricing only 1 more cut. The 2 year is at 4.331% and Fed funds is at 4.58%. That's about a 25 bps differential. Now of course, the 2 year could top out and revert back to where it was in September in which case we would have at least another 100 bps of cuts. It's worth noting that core CPI (3.3%) is still too high for me to declare victory. I would argue that we may

not  be in restrictive territory anymore given that Fed funds is only 1.28% above core with labour productivity that is above that. The interest payment on the debt will only add to more inflation. If the Fed drops rates anytime soon, they would be making a serious policy  error. This is not my opinion but the opinion of the bond market.  Don't forget that the Fed is still running QT which is actually shrinking the money supply. What do you think will happen to inflation when the Fed can begin to buy mortgage backed securities? 

 

Trump is not permitted to fire J Powell. He cannot forcefully decide to put someone else in place and lower rates with no justification. J Powell is in power until May 2026 and will likely get replaced by Christopher Waller, a Republican. The Fed is supposed to remain apolitical and can only make decisions based in part on the fiscal policies of the Trump administration. If Trump can successfully  cut wasteful spending and trim the deficit then that would lead to lower rates on the long end of the curve and more cuts by J Powell. If the economy contracts or slows down and unemployment continues to rise, then that would cause the Fed to lower rates even further. This could be the catalyst that breaks the economy but for all the right reasons. 

 

I’ll leave with one last remark. Politicians will pick inflation over a recession any day of the week. 

Comment by Frankie10 on Nov 16, 2024 9:22pm
I couldn't read all this... I'm sure it was very thoughtful TJ if you go here https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html you can see (if you click Dec 10, 2025)... bond market is currently pricing in 3 cuts by end of next year. And it's interesting to see the probability distribution for more and less cuts... it's always changing but I just wanted to ...more  
Comment by Torontojay on Nov 16, 2024 10:52pm
The Fed Funds Futures doesn't believe the 2-year t-note will stay elevated by the end of next year as it is now. The bond market as it stands today (not end of 2025) is predicting only 1 more rate cut. As I mentioned before, the 2 year is forecasting where Fed funds will be in 2 years time.   
Comment by DZtrader on Nov 16, 2024 11:40pm
It's not just the 2 year. In particular for most reits, if you look at the 10 year which arguably should be 1 to 1.5 percent above Fed future that puts you right about where we currently reside. Actually between here and 5 depending upon what level you deem FF rate at. 
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