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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

TSX:BBD.A - Post Discussion

Bombardier Inc. > shorts....
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Post by Noredneck on May 09, 2023 9:42am

shorts....

One thing you folks can do to irritate shorts plan is to put your ask the highest as possible. When the price go up move your ask the highest as possible again. The more people the better it is...just saying...
Comment by Shamhorish on May 09, 2023 10:13am
imo, putting share at high price for sale has absolutly no effect on shorts shorts does not need to own any shares to short them. on the other hand NOT USING STOP LOSS can be helpfull when you put stop loss on your shares, you are telling the scavengers here are my shares i will give it to you for that price and you do not need my approval, take it any time scavengeres use high level ...more  
Comment by Noredneck on May 09, 2023 10:27am
Shamhorish... correct... NO stop loss can be VERY HELPFULL and glad to see some people come with ideas over here.... but... locking your shares when they are not available to borrow is also good. Beleive it or not some firms are using your shares when then need it so shorts can borrow them. As you know shares need to be borrowed to short. 
Comment by Shamhorish on May 09, 2023 10:39am
SCAVENGERS MOSTLY USE NAKED SHORT where they do not need to borrow shares to short them,,, canadian law allow them to sell what they do not have or own or borrow canadian market are shorters play ground 
Comment by Noredneck on May 09, 2023 11:27am
Shamorish... just talk to my online brokers (manager) and the answer is this: YES it's possible to borrow shares from someone to short it...  BUT... that person (that lend the shares) need a special account. In USA  it's a lot easier to borrow shares from someone and short it..  SO my suggestion is make sure you don't have such account in Canada or if you have US stocks ...more  
Comment by clubhouse19 on May 09, 2023 11:41am
As to naked shorting.. How is it under tight control if they could go 10 days without being exposed ?   How is it under tight control if they could naked short and cov er multiple times during the reporting period thus making it a ferocious wheel of repetition?    All smoke and mirrors from iiroc and the OSC,,,worse is the AMF.
Comment by clubhouse19 on May 09, 2023 11:47am
An important practice in the US is that if an account lends you shares to short, there is a fee for that eiother per share or interest. It is like lending money...they don't do it for free.   They don't have to do that here since they can naked short at will. If you have a margin account, they can lend your shares as they please. Again..naked shorting you don't have to do that ...more  
Comment by johnney on May 09, 2023 11:52am
Shamhorish, if the Family would if invested in their own company after the R/S, probally all this wouldn't happened! This Family never invested in their own company, and how come they invested somewhere else and not in their own, they would of gave a certain confidence to the market, but they didn't, not very often have I've seen this, and this sure didn't help, this gives almost ...more  
Comment by Noredneck on May 09, 2023 2:02pm
johnney. for your information... As of March 6, 2023, Janine Bombardier, Claire Bombardier Beaudoin, Huguette Bombardier Fontaine and J.R. Andr Bombardier (collectively, the “Principal Shareholders”) beneficially owned or exercised control or direction over, directly or indirectly, 9,977,978 Class A shares and 1,208,449 Class B subordinate voting shares, representing in ...more  
Comment by johnney on May 09, 2023 2:13pm
I know this, yes they own, but never invested a dime in their company, always been helped by Governments, Given themselves plenty of stock options, at cheap prices and raise their wages in their middle if their 5 years restructuring!  Prouve me the opposite of what I' m saying, if false!!
Comment by clubhouse19 on May 09, 2023 11:53am
That is absolutely the reason why dual listed stocks like Bombardier are shorted in Canada through the dark pools.   Canadian plarforms are happy because of the increased volume even if it is counterfeiting.  Are you allowed to steal from a bank just as long as you tell therm that you have a reasonable expectation to return the money in 3 days ? It is equivalent to that but under the ...more  
Comment by Mauserintime945 on May 09, 2023 12:26pm
We live in a democracy / capitalist which allows many people to make the most of the shortcomings of the system.
Comment by johnney on May 09, 2023 12:29pm
But this stock fir the shorting is more than special, when you look at the small float of shares, no difference before the R/S, playing same way!
Comment by johnney on May 09, 2023 12:51pm
What a good system we have, don't we!!
Comment by clubhouse19 on May 09, 2023 2:51pm
I have a saying about democracy and its political system as to capitalism.and ethics.     I say in a democracy like ours, you get at least to vote who you want to steal form you.    
Comment by johnney on May 09, 2023 11:57am
Nordneck correct! Shorts has to be borrowed, so they have to get them somewhere or else they couldn't do it, and especially with this small float of shares, this more than surprising!!
Comment by clubhouse19 on May 09, 2023 12:02pm
If you have a margin account, they can lend your shares at will and collect a feeeven if you don't have stop losses. If you are long, the only sure way is like having your stock  certificates delivered to you but I don't know what fees are involved through the transfer agent/