Post by
deisman03 on Sep 11, 2023 10:26pm
Re Ponzi
All of these split have termination date mandates, including BK. Usually this one has a five year mandate
To believe they don't eat into ROC to make distributions?????
When they get near the end of the term, they increase payments to burn off excess cash.
They renewed their term and extended the life of the vehicle by another five years and have done so every five years since inception.
Something has to happen to the excess cash.
For those that bought in at high levels, such as over $15, they are getting ROC. There are other factors of course, KISS.
The biggest positive for this split is that the preferreds are still above their issue price.
GLTA the good folks here.
Comment by
EdPaquette on Sep 13, 2023 12:36am
Anyone who mentions the termination date is falling for a red herring. It's mostly meaningless and will most certainly be renewed. Maybe some tinkering with payouts etc but generally little things. If any split doesn't get renewed it will be FTU.
Comment by
novascotian2014 on Sep 13, 2023 7:41am
Us Financial 15 Split Corp T.FTU
Comment by
DemDem on Sep 13, 2023 10:25am
Not a very pretty sight FTU.
Comment by
Inglewood on Sep 13, 2023 10:52am
What the heck happened to FTU? They just went down with the financial crisis and never recovered? Why do they keep renewing this garbage rather than winding it up? Throw the damn towel!!
Comment by
EdPaquette on Sep 13, 2023 11:12am
To keep it alive, preferreds get 10% returns. But the nav keeps falling so eventually it might pay out the last penny. Or maybe it recovers? Doubt it.
Comment by
EdPaquette on Sep 13, 2023 11:52am
Of course my last post is about FTU but it is run by company as bk.