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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bonterra Energy Corp T.BNE

Alternate Symbol(s):  BNEFF

Bonterra Energy Corp. is a Canada-based conventional oil and gas company with operations in Alberta, Saskatchewan, and British Columbia. The Company operates through development and production of oil and natural gas in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin segment. Its operating areas include Pembina Cardium and other areas, which include Saskatchewan and Northeast British Columbia. The... see more

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Bonterra Energy Corp > Still chirping away over the carcass of “the offer” are we?
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Post by blackdog on Mar 04, 2021 9:46am

Still chirping away over the carcass of “the offer” are we?

It’s over; get over it. The offer was dead in the Fall; it was dead at the end of the year; and it is more than dead now.

And it shows in the chirps:

- Share price comparisons equating to a premium to Bonterra shareholders by tendering their shares? Very low volumes in both companies. Have a look at the short trade over the past couple of months: what trading that is happening (an internal cross notwithstanding) is day trading and short covering (and churning).  At mid Feb there were over a million shares of OBE shorted, even as 127K had been covered during that time. The end month report shows continued high short selling; it will be a couple more days before we know how much covering there was, but my guess is that both the minor uptick in the emaciated volume and the similarly miniscule rise in price might be explained by this.  Or there are other theories about market manipulation, by foreign interests seeking to deny Canadian companies capital, or exploit the low volumes in squeezes, which could be at play here although given the buoyancy that commodity prices are showing, these may be hard to sustain if they are factors at all. 

- Likewise the idea that this is a “liquidity event”?   OBE’s offer was predicated on the thesis that BNE’s shareholders were looking to exit. Well, it appears that this was a bad assumption, and more mirror imaging than real – it is OBE shareholders who seem focused on an “exit”, not BNE’s. The point to be taken from BNE’s low volume is that few seem to want to sell at the “price” that OBE has offered.  Part of that is different takes of the value of the shares; but I suggest that more of it is different values held by the shareholders themselves. 

Not that a no-cash share exchange into a company with Obsidian’s record is really a “price”.   Or that there is any reason to think that doubling the number of OBE shares would suddenly spike either price or volume; and what do you think would happen to the price if any large holder were to try and exit in this market?  And, of course, “the offer” is a very convoluted, which would leave those who tendered in limbo while all the other conditions were met.  Where would they be if the deal faltered and/or failed?

- Leadership?  The last press release on this from Obsidian, on 5 Jan 2021, said that “... Mr. Loukas’ employment contract has been extended through the end of January 2021 to allow for the Board to negotiate a longer-term extension.” Nothing since; so who is in charge there today? 

Now the comments from our resident OBE posters on Mr Loukas are “lacks experience in O&G” and “looking for a new CEO”.  How is this supposed to appeal to anyone looking at a potential business combination?

- Financing?  Obsidian is living month-to-month on its restricted bank line; now bumped out another 30 days.  Does anyone have any idea on what the draw is today? It is easy to assume that with current prices cash flow is balancing out capex, but Obsidian carries a lot of PennWest baggage, so what is really going on?

The speculation about “offering a heck of premium” to “make a play” for alternatives to the offer to Bonterra only highlights that Obsidian is in no position to offer anything to anyone.  How it ever got a sign-off for the share exchange deal; and even that at a huge discount, is a great question, as this is costing the shareholders real money to sustain.  Where does it propose to get the capital to do the work that would produce the magical efficiencies it claims could be achieved? And, as Bonterra is already clearly the far more efficient producer, how does a takeover achieve these?  Look up the G&A expenses of both companies and then ask Obsidian how any combination, particularly one done under Obsidian’s direction, could possibly come up with the economies predicted.

I am not thrilled by Bonterra taking the EDC/BDC loans (with their restrictions) either, but it had to be done and gives Bonterra a clear path forward as commodity prices rebound.  A better question, given where Obsidian is now, is why Obsidian did not apply for these. This is the real question, as the approval process would have involved a hard look at the books and certification that the company was a “going concern”.  Could it have qualified?

So explain to me again why anyone would want to combine with Obsidian.

Or better yet: Don’t.  The chirping has become quite irritating and my gall bladder is complaining. 

Go see if you can convince the Obsidian board (nothing else there; just like there is no analyst coverage of the company) that Obsidian has a future, and what that might be, and cease bothering us here.
Comment by Tim14235 on Mar 04, 2021 10:46am
Seems quite naive and almost arrogant to suggest that it has zero chance. I think you may eat your words by end of the month when a deal is consummated
Comment by kavern23 on Mar 04, 2021 10:52am
I agree witth you Tim and I am neither in BNE or OBE. BNE needs OBE more then OBE needs BNE... If Bne wants to remain alone....they likely need 70 plus WTI to make it...
Comment by Domovyk on Mar 05, 2021 10:31am
Kevern23  If you are being honest and you are in neither BNE or OBE.  Answer me this why are yoou on this board spoating your mouth?  No money in the game what motivates you to be here?  Tnis might be simply a sign of a flaw in this sites set up.  You post on things you know nothing about or hold any shares in because it still ups your reputation score.  Or maybe you ...more  
Comment by kavern23 on Mar 05, 2021 2:05pm
Sure Domovyk....I am here because I follow everything in the Cardium. If you think I am running my mouth...fine...then say some intelligent counter points.... What debt level do you think BNE needs to be at to have a long term viable company? Posters state OBE has a bad presentation....when BNE investor presentation is from December...seriously you think BNE management is top notch? Look I try ...more  
Comment by GunnerG on Mar 07, 2021 6:12pm
Get a grip, since when do you need skin in the game to offer an opioion. WTI $67.28, I sure hope they are hedging some of that new production.
Comment by blackdog on Mar 05, 2021 8:18am
I normally adhere to never-say-never; but I am irritated past being reasonable in this instance. Let’s review how we got here: - An unsolicited offer for a no-cash share exchange turned into a hostile takeover (or under) bid. - In the face of the a complete rejection of this by Bonterra management and shareholders, an extension of the hostile bid without any improvement in the offer; but with a ...more  
Comment by nobeard on Mar 05, 2021 3:29pm
Well said and worth the read.
Comment by nobeard on Mar 05, 2021 3:33pm
This post is worth the read.
Comment by Hendrick3 on Mar 05, 2021 4:31pm
I am confused as why shareholders of BNE are acting so surly about what's going on. Your stock price is being pulled up by the OBE offer. As OBE rises with commodity prices, your stock goes up too because there is that option to take the deal that buoys the BNE stock price. No one is being forced to tender their shares although there is a premium and I am sure some shareholders wonder what ...more  
Comment by kavern23 on Mar 05, 2021 4:46pm
That's exactly true...I mean both BNE and OBE shareholders should be happy. OBE going up so that BNE is worth 3.78 if tendered...enjoy the lift even if you don't like OBE. No other companies have made an offer to BNE. OBE starting this process only helped BNE price start to roll.
Comment by GunnerG on Mar 07, 2021 6:24pm
Not sure what hole your head is in bud, but it must be very dark in there?   I would suggest all oil stocks are up because the price of oil has soared.  BNE's fcf is about to skyrocket, nothing to do with OBE pulling us up. George has always said he would not just give away the oil at a low price.  If the price increases continue, expect capex to rise. PS:  most BNE ...more  
Comment by nobeard on Mar 05, 2021 7:56pm
Again worth the read ..
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