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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Baytex Energy Corp T.BTE

Alternate Symbol(s):  BTE

Baytex Energy Corp. is a Canada-based energy company. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, development and production of crude oil and natural gas in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and in the Eagle Ford in the United States. Its crude oil and natural gas operations are organized into three main operating areas: Light Oil USA (Eagle Ford), Light Oil Canada (Pembina Duvernay... see more

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Baytex Energy Corp > Baytex – Why share price is not moving much
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Post by ResearchSeeker on Apr 15, 2023 3:10pm

Baytex – Why share price is not moving much

This post is for those who are new to the game, and want to know more.

My appologies for not much participation. Duty calls - I should have spelled that "doodie"
 
First Observation
 
Baytex is under owned – which results in a large share trading float relative to the fixed amount of outstanding shares. Add a merger, and it becomes even harder to determine what the number really is.
 
It’s under owned because of NYSE de-listing and low share price performance, added to the possibility of bankruptcy during the pandemic. It’s still a recovery story.
 
Now, uncertainty caused by the merger will place some interested institutions into wait mode. Add the possibility of a recession, long overdue and no fault of Baytex, and the sidelines appear to be sanctuary for all stocks.
 
Short positions are now unclear in terms of percentage of outstanding shares, that will change drastically, relative to the combined outstanding shares of both companies. Whether short or long, you have to see this as a bad time to short, unless your time frame resembles that of a teenager with an iPhone.
 
Second Observation
 
My personal opinion on the merger is as stated previously. Short term, I hate it. Long term, I am neutral because the new CEO needs to show us he intends to eliminate debt, and reduce share count. Adding new senior secured notes at 8.5% interest means, a lot of money that could be used to pay down debt, will go to note holders, and not to people like us. We are getting less for our capital. Bankers that print money out of thin air do not deserve 8.5% interest. People like us, who worked, saved, and invested, need to be rewarded. Imagine the dividend yield at 8.5%!
 
If the debt is eliminated on the same schedule as was posted last year, fine. I will support this merger no sooner than November if the information then shows us they intend to eliminate the debt completely. I would rather see the debt reduced to zero before buying back shares.
 
The old addage “Debt Kills Business” is still valid, no matter what Harvard and Yale teach today. It almost buried this company in the pandemic. What looks good on a whiteboard, may not work in reality.
 
Third Observation
 
The sector Baytex belongs to still looks good. The Policies of the US government and all others that run things the same way, have created problems that will benefit Baytex. No matter what they want reality to be, the reality is the world is still consuming 100 Million Barrels of oil a day or so, increasing as time goes on. The world will never run out of it, only the ability to recover it at a price worth it to produce.
 
We as shareholders need to see Baytex added to additional indexes that force ownership of shares to track those indexes properly. The Russel 2000 to the SP400, and everywhere in between, is what we must see Baytex added to before share price can make a meaningful move.
Give Baytex 75% institutional ownership, and share price will go up. Keep adding debt, and I’m gone at some point. This company, once upon a time, paid a monthly dividend.
 
Adding debt and paying it down is no more effective than a dog chasing it’s tail – there’s no worthy protein reward to be had.
 
RS
Comment by Mattyboy19 on Apr 15, 2023 5:04pm
Thanks for your insight, where do you see the share price in one year?
Comment by uwebb429 on Apr 15, 2023 7:40pm
The share price is up +30% during the last 30 days. Is that not moving fast enough for you?  The negative misinformation that followed the Ranger deal announcement created a fantastic buying opportunity. Smart investors and institutions were adding to their positions last month and have already been richly rewarded.     RBC upgraded BTE to Outperform with a target price ...more  
Comment by red2000 on Apr 15, 2023 8:23pm
Always interesting to read post from ResearchSeeker and Uwebb429. Sometimes we need to read news with a broader view ! Our patience will be rewarded...sooner than we think ! For my point of view, Baytex make a very good decision to buy Ranger Oil instead of being bought at the market price of 5,50$ or so per share. It's a huge discount compare to it's EV of 7$+. We all know that a lot ...more  
Comment by GambinoB on Apr 15, 2023 10:45pm
Lmfao where do stockhouse find clowns that need a 2 thousand word essay on posts lmfao Another clown What the s$*t No price movement????  Lmfao  This thing has been in a wild trading band for ages. Maybe american not detroit but gotta be west coast Lmfao no price movement I cant take this board serously and neither should anyone But glad for only 3 observations could you imagine ...more  
Comment by Stalkhouse on Apr 16, 2023 9:40am
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Comment by riski on Apr 16, 2023 10:19am
A good investor looks to the future to determine probability of success. There are no guarantees with Baytex, but it's the best value bet I can find on the market right now. Nothing even comes close. You are trying to estimate the future which is good, but like many investors you are going to "wait" to see if this or that happens. In other words, you are basically going to wait ...more  
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