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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Baytex Energy Corp T.BTE

Alternate Symbol(s):  BTE

Baytex Energy Corp. is a Canada-based energy company. The Company is engaged in the acquisition, development and production of crude oil and natural gas in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and in the Eagle Ford in the United States. Its crude oil and natural gas operations are organized into three main operating areas: Light Oil USA (Eagle Ford), Light Oil Canada (Pembina Duvernay... see more

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Baytex Energy Corp > Share buybacks...interesting note from HFI research
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Post by JohnnyDoe on Nov 18, 2024 10:37am

Share buybacks...interesting note from HFI research

I get a daily email for HFI reserarch and received this note yesterday. Curious on the board's thoughts. I've wondered and openly asked on the board why the stock is in the tank, doubly so given its FCF yield. Maybe the buybacks aren't as well received as the company and this board think they are 


Share buyback in the energy investing world is widely debated. For many companies, share buybacks are just a form of financial engineering. Why would you spend capital on share buyback when you can invest that capital into de-risking reserves and increasing the reserve of the business?

For a business with low risk and long reserve life, share buyback is the only thing that makes sense. Because increasing reserves will not add additional value for shareholders (think Athabasca and MEG).

But for companies with high decline rates, constantly improving the reserve quality is the name of the game. This is why I think what Baytex is doing is not correct. Instead of spending capital on buying back shares, Baytex should improve the quality of the reserves and pay down debt. That's how you ultimately enhance shareholder value. Because if you don't improve the underlying quality of the reserves (increasing reserves and pushing up the reserve life index), buying back shares is like buying back a melting ice cube.

Financial engineering in energy investing only works if the reserves are low risk and have a long runway.

Comment by Marty47 on Nov 18, 2024 10:41am
Haha well whatever you say management already make up their mind .....if buybacks would be useless all ceo like suncor occidental etc are all stupid .... 
Comment by JohnnyDoe on Nov 18, 2024 10:52am
i think you are missing the point of what is being said Marty  What's being said is that for companies with shorter reserve life, money spent on buybacks would be better spent on extending reserve life. I also specifically left out who is making the statement....but it is an individual that sits on hte Board of Directors of a Cdn oil company so to me it is an interesting perspective ...more  
Comment by Antonyius on Nov 18, 2024 10:55am
It's debatable, I think HFI raises a legit point on buybacks vs reserves. However, I think there is a certain point where a little "financial engineering" makes sense, and that is when the market is severely under appreciating the stock. Baytex is trading at a significant discount for various reasons, some legit, some are over exaggerated.  That coupled with the fact that ...more  
Comment by HeavyBanana on Nov 18, 2024 11:08am
The internal profile of Duvernay assets is a 20 year life. Once they make that internal data public in so far as reserves go then it improves that aspect which HFI refers to. Similarily, Clearwater can do the same on a smaller scale. US assets help get that done. Meanwhile, buybacks tighten up things while the stock price is low relative to cost of debt. I like what they are doing.
Comment by JohnnyDoe on Nov 18, 2024 11:22am
at what production level is Duvernay a 20 year reserve life? 
Comment by jleer42 on Nov 18, 2024 11:06am
How a company allocates its resources is management's job and direct payback to shareholders via dividends and buybacks is when there are not more overriding areas. In general I don't like share buybacks, I would rather receive a dividend and decide where I want to invest my gains. Anyway, buybacks have pros and cons Cons: - invests in the company, which may be a poorer investment than ...more  
Comment by ztransforms173 on Nov 18, 2024 2:30pm
- HFI Research is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on the RATIONALE for ATH & MEG to AGRESSIVELY BUY BACK their STOCK with the 100% RETURN FRAMEWORK to shareholders while PAYING a MODEST DIVIDEND (MEG) or NO DIVIDEND (ATH)  - however, for Baytex Energy; they are OFF TRACK 1- BTE has a SEVERELY UNDERVALUED share price that does NOT REFLECT the FUTURE FREE CASH FLOWS of the company so BUYING BACK the ...more  
Comment by ztransforms173 on Nov 18, 2024 2:44pm
better now: * for a HISTORY LESSON, go LOOK AT Greenfire Resources (GFR) z173
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