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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Frontera Energy Corp T.FEC

Alternate Symbol(s):  FECCF

Frontera Energy Corporation is a Canada-based oil and gas company. The Company is involved in the exploration, development, production, transportation, storage, and sale of oil and natural gas in South America, including related investments in both upstream and midstream facilities. The Company has a diversified portfolio of assets with interests in 27 exploration and production blocks in... see more

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Frontera Energy Corp > Ok, let's do an examples to determine which way Pro-Rate is
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Post by CrazyTrader on Sep 24, 2024 12:05pm

Ok, let's do an examples to determine which way Pro-Rate is

2 people tender.  

example 1:

Bob tenders 3,375,000 shares
Ted tenders 100 shares.

example 2:

Bob tenders 80,000,000 shares
Ted tenders 100 shares.

Does Ted get 4 shares no matter what?
Comment by a2bman on Sep 24, 2024 12:12pm
yes thats prorated
Comment by CrazyTrader on Sep 24, 2024 12:39pm
These example show that the 4% doesn't make sense. In example #1, you can't apply 4% to Bob.  Bob is going to get way more than 4%.   If you can't apply 4% to Bob, then you can't apply 4% to Ted.     4% only works if every single shareholder tenders every share.  Only then you can apply 4% to everyone.  
Comment by a2bman on Sep 24, 2024 12:55pm
Yes if every shareholder tendered 4% of their shares everyone would get 4% or their shares sold at $12.  If not everyone tenders 4% or their shares, then others can tender more than just 4% of their holdings but its prorated.  So if anyone gets to sell 6% of holdings we all get to sell 6% as long as you tendered enough before the calculation. Read this pr from a windup of an SIB it ...more  
Comment by CrazyTrader on Sep 24, 2024 1:17pm
a2bman, thanks for the link to an result of an actual tender process of another company.   But I couldn't figure out how number 80.9% came to be..... as such, I can not apply to our situation to understand the 4%.  
Comment by Frank007 on Sep 24, 2024 1:28pm
lol.....and yet I just bought a thou at $8.63.... lol...what a con game 
Comment by a2bman on Sep 24, 2024 3:17pm
that one was a little diff.  it was dutch auction - the offered between 11.40 and 13.00.  you choose your price and how many shares.  11.40 was below market at the time if I remember correctly so why do that. I think what happened is nobody but a few big guys tendered at 11.40 and since nobody else did at that price they got 80% of their shares bought.  Someone correct me if ...more  
Comment by Frank007 on Sep 24, 2024 5:03pm
U r correct ...it was set up as a Dutch auction...lol...I looking back now I wish I had sold all ...and bought back in at a lower price ...lol ....it sure is a miserable con game ...like I was saying they are going to suppress the stock price to get as many people discouraged and tender their shares ....i been ...buying got some more $8.59 .....I can wait ...
Comment by waitingstill on Sep 24, 2024 11:02pm
You have to tender 100% of your shares to get the 4% filled. For example, if EVERY share was tendered (100%), then 4% will be filled at $12 and the rest returned. If 50% of the shares are tendered, then 8% of the shares will get filled at $12 and the rest returned. After thinking about my previous statement, and seeing as there appears to be no drop dead date, they can not know how many shares ...more  
Comment by waitingstill on Sep 24, 2024 11:02pm
I mean you have to tender 100% of your shares to maximize how many will get filled.
Comment by CrazyTrader on Sep 25, 2024 7:13am
Waitingstill, you have determined that " they must be determining the amounts based on what is tendered."   So this 4%, 8% does not apply.     I concure as my example shows why 4% can not be used. My original FIRST post here I think is "correct" which describes how Pro-Rate probably applies and possible outcomes.