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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Financial 15 Split Corp T.FTN

Alternate Symbol(s):  T.FTN.PR.A | FNNCF

Financial 15 Split Corp. is a mutual fund, which invests in a portfolio consisting of over 15 financial services companies. The Company offers two types of shares, such as Preferred Shares and Class A Shares. Its investment objectives with respect to Preferred Shares are to provide holders of Preferred Shares with cumulative preferential monthly cash dividends in an amount of over 6.75... see more

TSX:FTN - Post Discussion

Financial 15 Split Corp > Can anyone explain how this stock can pay
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Post by KozmoT on Jan 05, 2024 1:13pm

Can anyone explain how this stock can pay

a  whopping19% dividend and yet hardly anybody seems to know about it?  Shouldn't it be #1 on every investors Must-Buy list. I've got a good chunk of FTN and the only thing stopping me from loading up more is good ole  "If Its Too Good To Be True" suspicion.

Thanks in advance ...
Comment by NoShoesNoShirt on Jan 05, 2024 2:11pm
the nav is now about the same as it was in April 2022. The selling price then was over 9 dollars and the only difference now is the premium evaporated. It will come back with time.
Comment by KozmoT on Jan 05, 2024 3:22pm
So ... Win Win at this price?  Thx but still doesn't explain why this isn't being shouted from the rooftops.
Comment by ehud42 on Jan 05, 2024 3:51pm
Who would do the shouting? These are high(er) risk investments - brokers would get into a lot of trouble recommending these to low tolerance investors. Higher tolerance investors eventually discover / find these and hopefully do their due dilligence to determine if they are appropriate for thier strategies.
Comment by KozmoT on Jan 05, 2024 4:03pm
I have a few "high risk" stocks but none of them pay dividends.  I have a good number of low risk stocks but they pay dividends between 5 and 9%.    I guess I can't see what the risk is but I can't seem to square that with a 19% dividend.  I note that FTN has been around for a couple decades and has traded much higher than where it is now.  So either ...more  
Comment by meritmat on Jan 05, 2024 6:09pm
  5-9% is not low risk.  Very high.  3-5% is low I look at this like musical chairs.  I plan to be out sitting on my chair at the first sign of danger 
Comment by alkhor on Jan 05, 2024 7:54pm
"5-9% is not low risk.  Very high.  3-5% is low" Yhe big banks Preferred Shares are currently paying 5-6%, so that should be considered low risk.
Comment by KozmoT on Jan 05, 2024 9:01pm
You think Enbridge is a high risk stock? or TRP or DIV or MFC or FIE or RSI or Telus? ... they all pay out over 5% dividends. I don't consider them to be High Risk at all.  I agree with you on the musical chair thing but I just am trying to get a handle on FTN's risk level with its 19% dividend.  
Comment by meritmat on Jan 05, 2024 9:16pm
  hehe I have 6 figures in Enb plus close to that in ENS.   I'm more confident in the company.   Been watching splits for awhile and finally jumped in last month.   I feel like a gambler that's on a hot streak.  Just one more hand......
Comment by ehud42 on Jan 05, 2024 2:12pm
The over simplified answer is: Splits eat themselves paying that high dividend. Unless very well managed, they will eventualy implode due to lack of capital gains to sustain the dividend. Be careful - a good dividend only protects so much against a buy high, sell low investment strategy.
Comment by alkhor on Jan 05, 2024 2:34pm
The simple answer is, over the long term it can't. Every single one of these split funds eventually head to a NAV of $15. Once it gets below the $15 barrier it stops paying the common shares so they have the funds to start increasing the NAV back over the $15. A few years ago FTN was wallowing well below the $15 threshold with little chance of getting over it in the foreseeable future  ...more  
Comment by Snap2000 on Jan 05, 2024 8:58pm
LBS class A since inception in 2014 has never missed a dividend except for 8 or 9 months of covid year 2020.   They must be doing something right to not have it implode.
Comment by NoShoesNoShirt on Jan 05, 2024 9:51pm
OK so I'll jump over to lbs when things get grim.  For now while the party rages on, ftn is the bomb.