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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum H&R Real Estate Investment Trust T.HR.UN

Alternate Symbol(s):  HRUFF

H&R Real Estate Investment Trust is a Canada-based real estate investment trust. The Company owns, operates and develops residential and commercial properties across Canada and in the United States. The Company operates through the four segments: Residential, Industrial, Office and Retail. The Residential segment consists of approximately 24 residential properties in select markets in the... see more

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Post by SNAKEYBOY on May 17, 2023 9:47pm

INTEREST RATES

REITs tumbled on average 20% since Feb 28 when the BOC paused.  The average yield on a REIT has increased 0.50-1% depending on how much it fell in 2 months.  So if REITS are going to crater from another BOC 0.25 hike why did they crater so much with a PAUSE?
Comment by ScroogeMcDuck1 on May 17, 2023 10:36pm
It was the us bank implosion that set the fuse, IMO
Comment by Frankie10 on May 18, 2023 8:30am
It's a multi variable equation... snakey just needs a simple answer so he can point and complain about it... you are spot on, the us banking collapse and how the mainstream media linked regional collapses and vulnerabilities to commercial real estate specifically, obviously resulted in significant downward pressure. All else being equal, if I ran a multi million dollar ad campaign to engine ...more  
Comment by ScroogeMcDuck1 on May 18, 2023 11:24am
What I gather is that any office exposure is being marked down 50% value and stated nav is not trusted.  All reits with office are bundled together and treated the same until they prove their mettle.  
Comment by pjn0987654321 on May 18, 2023 11:52am
From a Globe article A year into the fastest campaign to hike interest rates in decades, the commercial real estate sector is deadlocked. In one corner, the world’s most sophisticated private real estate investors, including Canadian pension plans, say scores of properties they own are worth hundreds of millions of dollars each and have held most of their value. In the other, investors are ...more  
Comment by Frankie10 on May 18, 2023 12:15pm
Great article - thanks for sharing... if I had to bottom line it: "MSCI, a financial market research firm, tracks the difference between publicly-listed and private, or unlisted, real estate in Canada and the U.S. Its latest figures show the gap in public and private values is 37 per cent in Canada, and 30 per cent in the U.S." I have taken solace in the fact that I could invest in the ...more  
Comment by Reece1986b on May 18, 2023 12:52pm
Thank you for sharing that article. I agree with Frankie. Many REITs are managing to sell one or a very small number of office assets at full IFRS NAV and then claiming that this validates their NAV on all their office properties. I don't think that ever really made sense however I think it particularly makes no sense in cases such as the Dream Office sale of 720 Bay Street where the property ...more  
Comment by Calbucin on May 18, 2023 2:20pm
Hi Reece, where do you see an 11% distribution? for hr.un, I see half of that? best regards
Comment by Frankie10 on May 18, 2023 2:38pm
Total return over 2 years (annual yield x2)... and I felt this way last time I was buying like mad in the low 10's... only took a quarter to realize a very fat gain. Not saying this wil happen again... but I am saying the fundamentals on a company specific basis have only improved. Great company at a great price = amazing investment.
Comment by Capharnaum on May 18, 2023 8:40pm
I think that real estate will hold value because the cost of building new has just gone so much higher. The extra office supply can be repurposed at cheaper cost than building from scratch, especially if it's well located, as there's hardly any land piece to build out something new. Long term, rents will be driven by new build costs, and those aren't coming down anytime soon ...more  
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