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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Ivanhoe Mines Ltd T.IVN

Alternate Symbol(s):  IVPAF

Ivanhoe Mines Ltd. is a Canada-based mining, development, and exploration company. The Company is focused on the mining, development and exploration of minerals and precious metals from its property interests located primarily in Africa. Its projects include The Kamoa-Kakula Copper Complex, The Kipushi Project, The Platreef Project., and The Western Foreland Exploration Project. The Kamoa... see more

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Ivanhoe Mines Ltd > Interesting read... Globe & Mail article this morning...
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Post by zack50 on Sep 27, 2024 12:53pm

Interesting read... Globe & Mail article this morning...

CLARA DENINA AND FELIX NJINI
LONDON - REUTERS
Leading mining companies are struggling to balance investor expectations for hefty returns with paying the necessary premiums to buy pure play copper companies as global demand for the metal sends valuations soaring.

Big diversified miners including Rio Tinto , BHP Group and Glencore, pressured by a slowdown in global economic growth and falling commodity prices, are watching rival copper producers gradually grow beyond their reach, with shares benefiting from the metal’s robust outlook.

While shares of Rio, BHP and Glencore have slumped between 10% and 15% this year, the valuations of pure play copper producers including Freeport-McMoRan, Ivanhoe Mines and Teck Resources have risen, even as benchmark copper prices retreated after hitting a record high above $11,000 a metric ton in May this year.

“Engaging in large copper deals makes the boards (of directors) nervous when fluctuations in other commodities, like iron ore and coal, are likely to persist,” a banker, who has worked on several mining transactions, told Reuters.

“And since copper companies have performed better, diversified miners find it challenging to pay massive premiums when their share prices have dropped more in comparison,” the banker added.

BHP, Rio Tinto and Glencore trade at multiples of five to six times earnings, whereas Teck, Freeport, and Ivanhoe are at nearly double that, the banker said.

Copper, used in power and construction, is set to benefit from burgeoning demand from the electric vehicle sector and new applications such as data centers for artificial intelligence.

The long-term outlook for the metal isn’t always factored in by investors in the bigger miners when they offer higher premiums to try and seal a deal, said Richard Blunt, a partner at law firm Baker McKenzie.

“Investors only want to know what’s going to happen to the value of their company over the next three to six months, and that’s a major problem,” Blunt said.

In the past three years, thanks to higher commodity prices most miners have paid record dividends, which - although popular - are seen as eroding the industry’s ability to generate production growth via exploration, mine development, or consolidation.

COSTLY HISTORY

Investors have good reason to keep a wary eye on management’s dealmaking ambitions as most miners have a corporate history littered with failed and sometimes costly acquisitions.

Rio Tinto’s $38 billion deal for Alcan in 2007 commanded a 65% premium, and subsequent writedown, while BHP’s $12 billion deal for U.S. onshore shale oil and gas assets in 2011 sold back for $10 billion in 2018.

Some management teams have tried to return to M&A, but with no or only partial success.

“There’s the pure financial aspect, which is the resistance of existing shareholders to significant premia,” said Michel Van Hoey, senior partner at McKinsey & Company.

“If you look historically, 10 years ago, we have gone through a significant wave where some companies probably overpaid for their transactions. Now, executives have become a bit more conservative,” he added.

Glencore eventually settled for 77% of Teck’s steelmaking coal assets after its $23 billion bid for all of the Canadian miner was spurned, while BHP was forced to walk away from Anglo American even after revising its initial bid two times to entice the smaller rival.

Both BHP and Glencore initially made all-share proposals for their target companies.

“In past cycles, companies such as Rio Tinto engaged in substantial cash acquisitions at peak times, only to see prices crash, leaving them looking imprudent,” a mining investor said.

“Today, the trend has shifted towards stock-based deals to mitigate risks, but that is more expensive, especially at a time when commodity prices are coming down.”

Comment by crow27 on Sep 27, 2024 2:37pm
You have to laugh at some of these big miners ........................... did not want to give a red cent to RF when he was shopping KK around at such a low price (the Chinese sure saw the green light flashing and came up with the cash) and now they are having a very hard time to pay up at fair value. Every CEO of these big boys that said no to RF should hopefully have been fired!!! Biggest goof ...more  
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